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However, with steam tanks, it's more efficient to only insert a fuel cell when the steam levels are below a threshold, meaning the steam in the tanks is being used up (instead of excess heat from the reactor, above 500 C) | However, with steam tanks, it's more efficient to only insert a fuel cell when the steam levels are below a threshold, meaning the steam in the tanks is being used up (instead of excess heat from the reactor, above 500 C) | ||
Is this correct? Should this be added? | Is this correct? Should this be added? | ||
Edit: this is just for fun because in normal gameplay uranium is ridiculously abundant. | |||
https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/a4yrxt/comment/ebiunmf says a full steam tank holds 2.4 GJ, which is 485 accumulators. But the reactor itself stores 5 GJ and each heat pipe 0.5 GJ. So there is already a buffer. | |||
[[User:Qwr|Qwr]] ([[User talk:Qwr|talk]]) 03:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
: More "efficient" in what way? Remember: it takes time for the heat from a reactor to be generated, flow to the exchangers and be converted into steam. And the only time you lose energy from a fuel cell is if the temperature of the reactor hits 1000 C. So the temperature method could only be less efficient if the reactor could hit 1000 C. Why do you think it will hit that temperature? [[User:Alfonse|Alfonse]] ([[User talk:Alfonse|talk]]) 03:30, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: Frequently in my world, the temperature of the reactor is frequently at 1000 C. But I probably set things up wrong. Does the reactor temperature only go down if there is no steam left? The steam says it's at 500 C but maybe the reactor doesn't use heat to heat up steam if there is already steam in the tanks. [[User:Qwr|Qwr]] ([[User talk:Qwr|talk]]) 03:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: I was under the impression from old tutorials that you only wanted to insert cells when the steam in the tanks was getting used up. But I did some more testing and one fuel cell in one reactor can't heat all the way from 650 to 1000 C, so I can just leave the steam tanks full as a backup of sorts, or remove them completely? But with 2 reactors, my factory only uses ~ 40 / 160 total MW, so the reactors will heat up to 1000 C. [[User:Qwr|Qwr]] ([[User talk:Qwr|talk]]) 04:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 04:21, 20 December 2024
Apperantly there are multiple tutorials. Although there is no link from this page to the Tutorial page. Is it an idea to link to the Tutorial page? I am doubting in which format this is best implemented. Perhaps a section "See Also" ? --Hayertjez (talk) 13:57, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- I support linking pages like power production and other power related tutorials in a see also section, but what kind of relevance do tutorials in general have for one specific tutorial? -- Bilka (talk) - Admin 14:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- Seemingly there is a reference on the landing page to the tutorials. But I overlook that catergory because I do not consider myself a "Beginner" After visiting the nuclear power tutorial page I thought, there could be more tutorials but where?. So I removed :Nulcear_Power from the Nuclear power URL to see if there are more tutorials available, and they where. Then I thought is there a category Tutorials or so but could not find them. So I posted this message to think about a better guidance to the Tutorials (even if the content is not so much for beginners). Perhaps it is good the way it is and my finding of the page tutorials is too special to adjust the current setup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hayertjez (talk • contribs) 14:54, 2 August 2018
Possible error in Always on section
Since exchanges produce 120 steam/second and a tank holds 25k steam, a tank will keep 208 seconds worth of heat exchanger.
If I understand correctly, the numbers should be "103 steam/second" and "242.5 seconds". Diraria (talk) 18:31, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- From what I know, you are right, so please correct the page :) -- Bilka (talk) - Admin 18:34, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Error in the raw resource cost
The section "Raw resource cost of running a single reactor (late game)" contains an error. It assume all U235 will be produced by Kovarex enrichment. In fact, some U235 will be produced by ore processing, and that reduces the resource cost a little. By my calculations, the cost of running one reactor for one second is not 0.08 uranium ore per second as stated, but 40/507 ≈ 0.0789 uranium ore per second. I did not correct the calculations because I believe adding this level of detail is more likely to confuse than clarify. However, for correctness, I think it is necessary to document that the 0.08 ore per second is an approximation, so I added a note to that effect.
How is the power/distance table for heat pipes calculated?
I built a setup with a 70 tile long heat pipe outgoing from a 80 MW reactor and one heat exchanger at the last pipe. There were still 857°C incoming. How is your table calculated? It is not clear how heat exchangers act there. Is it necessary to change all of the reactors heat performance into steam and then the last exchangers should be placed at most at the given distance?
--DRY411S (talk) 16:15, 10 January 2023 (UTC) I really don't understand this table either.
Always On with steam tank storage
Right now the section describes inserting a fuel cell when the temperature is below 650. However, with steam tanks, it's more efficient to only insert a fuel cell when the steam levels are below a threshold, meaning the steam in the tanks is being used up (instead of excess heat from the reactor, above 500 C) Is this correct? Should this be added?
Edit: this is just for fun because in normal gameplay uranium is ridiculously abundant. https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/a4yrxt/comment/ebiunmf says a full steam tank holds 2.4 GJ, which is 485 accumulators. But the reactor itself stores 5 GJ and each heat pipe 0.5 GJ. So there is already a buffer.
Qwr (talk) 03:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- More "efficient" in what way? Remember: it takes time for the heat from a reactor to be generated, flow to the exchangers and be converted into steam. And the only time you lose energy from a fuel cell is if the temperature of the reactor hits 1000 C. So the temperature method could only be less efficient if the reactor could hit 1000 C. Why do you think it will hit that temperature? Alfonse (talk) 03:30, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Frequently in my world, the temperature of the reactor is frequently at 1000 C. But I probably set things up wrong. Does the reactor temperature only go down if there is no steam left? The steam says it's at 500 C but maybe the reactor doesn't use heat to heat up steam if there is already steam in the tanks. Qwr (talk) 03:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I was under the impression from old tutorials that you only wanted to insert cells when the steam in the tanks was getting used up. But I did some more testing and one fuel cell in one reactor can't heat all the way from 650 to 1000 C, so I can just leave the steam tanks full as a backup of sorts, or remove them completely? But with 2 reactors, my factory only uses ~ 40 / 160 total MW, so the reactors will heat up to 1000 C. Qwr (talk) 04:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)