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* logistic chests | * logistic chests | ||
* modules | * modules | ||
* | * beacon | ||
* express | * express splitter | ||
* logistic robots | * logistic robots | ||
* | * roboport | ||
* selector | * selector combinator | ||
* | * substation | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Battery}} ||  40 ||  40 || || || || || || || || || || | | {{imagelink|Battery}} ||  40 ||  40 || || || || || || || || || || | ||
* | * accumulator | ||
* flying robot | * flying robot frame | ||
* | * supercapacitor | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Concrete}} ||  60 ||  60 || || || || || || || || || || | | {{imagelink|Concrete}} ||  60 ||  60 || || || || || || || || || || | ||
* refined concrete | * refined concrete | ||
* rocket | * rocket silo | ||
* paving | * paving | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Copper cable}} ||  30 ||  98.75 || || || || || 30 || 41.25 || || 27.5 || || | | {{imagelink|Copper cable}} ||  30 ||  98.75 || || || || || 30 || 41.25 || || 27.5 || || | ||
* combinators | * combinators | ||
* | * beacon | ||
* programmable | * programmable speaker | ||
* | * lamp | ||
* | * substation | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Copper plate}} || || 109.375 || || || 10 || 15 || || 20.625 || || 13.75 || 50 || | | {{imagelink|Copper plate}} || || 109.375 || || || 10 || 15 || || 20.625 || || 13.75 || 50 || | ||
* | * superconductor | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Electronic circuit}} || || 120 || || || || ||  0.5 ||  0.5 ||  5 ||  5.25 || || many useful items, notably: | | {{imagelink|Electronic circuit}} || || 120 || || || || ||  0.5 ||  0.5 ||  5 ||  5.25 || || many useful items, notably: | ||
* | * supercapacitor | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Holmium ore}} ||  10 ||  10|| || || || || || || || || || | | {{imagelink|Holmium ore}} ||  10 ||  10|| || || || || || || || || || | ||
holmium solution | holmium solution | ||
* holmium plate | |||
** lightning collector | |||
** supercapacitor | |||
** electromagnetic science pack | |||
** Tesla gun | |||
** Tesla ammo | |||
** Tesla turret | |||
* electrolyte | |||
** electromagnetic plant | |||
** mech armor | |||
** supercapacitor | |||
** superconductor | |||
** Tesla gun | |||
** fusion power cell (on Aquilo) | |||
** lithium (on Aquilo) | |||
* electromagnetic science pack | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Ice}} ||  50 ||  50 || || || || || || || || || || | | {{imagelink|Ice}} ||  50 ||  50 || || || || || || || || || || | ||
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| {{imagelink|Iron ore}} || ||   1.5 || || 1.5 || || || || || || || || nothing | | {{imagelink|Iron ore}} || ||   1.5 || || 1.5 || || || || || || || || nothing | ||
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| {{imagelink|Iron plate}} || || 140 || 100 || || 10 || || ||  3.75 || || 26.25 || || many things, in particular | | {{imagelink|Iron plate}} || || 140 || 100 || || 10 || || ||  3.75 || || 26.25 || || many things, in particular: | ||
* accumulator | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Low density structure}} ||  10 ||  10 || || || || || || || || || || | | {{imagelink|Low density structure}} ||  10 ||  10 || || || || || || || || || || | ||
* power armor mk2 | * power armor mk2 | ||
** mech armor | ** mech armor | ||
* rocket | * rocket part | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Plastic bar}} || ||  32.5 || || || || || 15 || 15 || ||  5 || 12.5 || | | {{imagelink|Plastic bar}} || ||  32.5 || || || || || 15 || 15 || ||  5 || 12.5 || | ||
* | * superconductor | ||
* Tesla | * Tesla gun | ||
* Tesla ammo | * Tesla ammo | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Processing unit}} ||  20 ||  20 || || || || || || || || || || | | {{imagelink|Processing unit}} ||  20 ||  20 || || || || || || || || || || | ||
* level 2/3 modules | * level 2/3 modules | ||
* electromagnetic | * electromagnetic plant | ||
* mech armor | * mech armor | ||
* power armour mk2 (used in mech armor) | * power armour mk2 (used in mech armor) | ||
* | * recycler | ||
* rocket | * rocket part | ||
* rocket | * rocket silo | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Solid fuel}} ||  70 ||  70 || || || || || || || || || || rocket fuel | | {{imagelink|Solid fuel}} ||  70 ||  70 || || || || || || || || || || rocket fuel | ||
* | * rocket part | ||
* | * fuelling trains | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Steel plate}} ||  40 ||  45 || || || || || || || || ||  5 || many things, notably: | | {{imagelink|Steel plate}} ||  40 ||  45 || || || || || || || || ||  5 || many things, notably: | ||
* | * beacon | ||
* flying robot | * flying robot frame | ||
* power armor mk2 (used in mech armor) | * power armor mk2 (used in mech armor) | ||
* | * rail, rail ramp and rail support | ||
* refined concrete | * refined concrete | ||
* | * roboport | ||
* rocket | * rocket silo | ||
* | * recycler | ||
* electromagnetic | * electromagnetic plant | ||
* lightning | * lightning rod and lightning collector | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Stone}} ||  40 ||  40 || || || || || || || || || || | | {{imagelink|Stone}} ||  40 ||  40 || || || || || || || || || || | ||
* foundation | * foundation | ||
* | * rail | ||
* holmium solution | * holmium solution | ||
* electrolyte | * electrolyte | ||
|- | |- | ||
| {{imagelink|Stone brick}} || ||   7.5 || || 7.5 || || || || || || || || | | {{imagelink|Stone brick}} || ||   7.5 || || 7.5 || || || || || || || || | ||
* lightning | * lightning rod | ||
* paving | * paving | ||
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Revision as of 22:18, 25 January 2025
Yields per 1000 scrap
The following table lists the expected yield (rows) per 1000 scrap, if all possible recycling steps that could yield that item are performed.
- Direct yields are those obtained by recycling in only one step.
- Full process yields are those obtained by further recycling the direct products, assuming the maximum possible amount is recycled. Only items that have at least one recyclable yield have this column.
Full process yields will not usually be obtained in practice, since some intermediate recyclable items will be consumed instead of recycled. In particular, the yield of electronic circuits, copper plates, copper cables, and plastic is much lower when rockets are being constructed, since rocket construction consumes processing units and low density structures.
The table takes into account that each yield is rolled for independently, including for scrap.
The uses column includes only items that are useful on Fulgora and cannot be obtained directly from scrap.
Yield | Input | Uses | ||||||||||
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Scrap | Iron gear wheel | Concrete | Battery | Copper cable | Advanced circuit | Processing unit | Low density structure | |||||
Direct | Full process | Direct | Full process | Direct | Full process | |||||||
Advanced circuit | 30 | 40 | 10 | 10 |
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Battery | 40 | 40 |
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Concrete | 60 | 60 |
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Copper cable | 30 | 98.75 | 30 | 41.25 | 27.5 |
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Copper plate | 109.375 | 10 | 15 | 20.625 | 13.75 | 50 |
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Electronic circuit | 120 | 0.5 | 0.5 | 5 | 5.25 | many useful items, notably:
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Holmium ore | 10 | 10 |
holmium solution
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Ice | 50 | 50 |
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Iron gear wheel | 200 | 200 | many things, none unique to Fulgora | |||||||||
Iron ore | 1.5 | 1.5 | nothing | |||||||||
Iron plate | 140 | 100 | 10 | 3.75 | 26.25 | many things, in particular:
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Low density structure | 10 | 10 |
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Plastic bar | 32.5 | 15 | 15 | 5 | 12.5 |
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Processing unit | 20 | 20 |
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Solid fuel | 70 | 70 | rocket fuel
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Steel plate | 40 | 45 | 5 | many things, notably:
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Stone | 40 | 40 |
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Stone brick | 7.5 | 7.5 |
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Processed scrap in terms of stacks
Recycling scrap produces the following numbers of stacks. The table lists expected numbers from 20,000 scrap, which is 400 stacks.
Product | Stack size | Per 1 scrap | Per 20,000 scrap | |||
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Quantity | Stacks | Stacks | Quantity | |||
Advanced circuit | 200 | 0.03 | 0.00015 | 3 | 600 | |
Battery | 200 | 0.04 | 0.0002 | 4 | 800 | |
Concrete | 100 | 0.06 | 0.0006 | 12 | 1200 | |
Copper cable | 200 | 0.03 | 0.00015 | 3 | 600 | |
Holmium ore | 50 | 0.01 | 0.0002 | 4 | 200 | |
Ice | 50 | 0.05 | 0.001 | 20 | 1000 | |
Iron gear wheel | 100 | 0.2 | 0.002 | 40 | 4000 | |
Low density structure | 50 | 0.01 | 0.0002 | 4 | 200 | |
Processing unit | 100 | 0.02 | 0.0002 | 4 | 200 | |
Solid fuel | 50 | 0.07 | 0.0014 | 28 | 1400 | |
Steel plate | 100 | 0.04 | 0.0004 | 8 | 800 | |
Stone | 50 | 0.02 | 0.0004 | 8 | 400 | |
Total | — | 0.6 | — | — | 146 | 12000 |
The total per 1 scrap is the expected quantity of something, calculated as the sum of expected quantities of the other items (this calculation is valid since they are statistically independent). This is not the same as the probability of getting something, which is 0.468775584950143, calculated as 1 minus the probability of getting nothing, i.e. the product of 1 minus the probability of getting each item. The difference is accounted for by the fact that each craft of the scrap recycling recipe can produce multiple items.
One cargo wagon has 40 slots, so to get 146 slots you need 4 cargo wagons, with 14 left over.
If the holmium ore is converted to holmium solution before being shipped by rail, it will also consume 5% of the ice (as water) and 12.5% of the stone, at 0% productivity bonus. Per 20,000 scrap this translates to a saving of 4 stacks of holmium ore, 1 stack of ice, and 2 stacks of stone, for a total of 139 stacks, while adding a fluid wagon (holmium solution cannot be barrelled).
If the ice is melted and barrelled before being shipped out, it will produce 380 barrels (38 stacks of barrels) of water, while eliminating 20 barrels of ice, and if fresh barrels are used, they consume 380 steel (3.8 rounded up to 4 stacks of steel), thus occupying 14 more stacks than the ice would, for a total of 160 stacks occupied. This exactly fills 4 cargo wagons.