"Base-breaking changes" page
Hey, as already mentioned in reply to you linking the page on the forums, the "Base-breaking changes" page doesn't fit on the wiki. The way it is currently written, it is a tutorial and very subjective. Due to this, the page will be removed from the wiki in 3-5 days. I am notifying you here so that you can host the content on a more fitting site, such as the forums, before I delete it. In the future, please follow the rules related to page creation before creating pages to avoid putting work into pages that have to be deleted because they don't fit on the wiki. -- Bilka (talk) - Admin 14:50, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi i can see you removed a change i made on the page (multiplayer) with the reason it was not linux commands. i will inform you if i wrote these commands in the part that belongs to a windows setup and actually just under one of the things i made about there was a title called "Setting up a Linux Factorio server" which i did not change. i dont see what you mean by it is not linux commands as that part does not belong to a linux setup
- Hi Thejomper. First off, I'm sorry this happened! I'll explain my reasoning a bit better than in the commit message / changelog. I should also preface this by saying that I have very little experience having discussions in this sort of multiplayer notepad with magic syntax, so please let me know if I reply in an incorrect manner.
- The section is "dedicated/headless server", which is only available for Linux. The command examples shown are ./bin/x64/factorio --start-server [etc.] which only works using the Linux release of the game (indeed, the headless server is for Linux). For Windows, it would be bin/x64/factorio.exe (and the start command that you added is optional, depending on what behaviour the user wants). Since the commands are used to run a Linux server using a binary that exists only for Linux, I think it would be wrong to add a "start" command that only works on Windows (and is optional even there).
- You added another example that uses "pause", which is also Windows-only, but didn't change bin/x64/factorio to bin/x64/factorio.exe, so again this example will not work on any platform. And even if you make it work on Windows, it seems to me that this would be the wrong section.
- Finally, you added a hint about where to find a certain file... specifically for Windows. If a Windows user can't find this path, they would be unlikely to check the section about the dedicated linux-only server and more likely to search the wiki for "settings directory" which will land them on the dedicated page where it is explained multi-platform: Application directory.
- In short, my reason for reverting was to revert the page state to a state where the examples actually work on the platform for which they were intended.
- I'm sorry I reverted most of your edit. I did look at each change and kept the part that I assume works on all platforms ("This file will be created if you promote a player through the console"), that was a helpful addition because I didn't know that yet!
- If you want to add examples on how to manage a Windows server, I think a different or new subsection would be more fitting. Section 1 of the page is "Setting up a multiplayer game" with subsections "1.1 dedicated/headless server" (linux-only), "1.2 Setting up a Linux Factorio server", and 1.3+ with more details about other server-related topics. Maybe your examples would fit better in a new section (inserted above or below the linux server sections) like "Setting up a Windows server".
- Hi Luc
- this explains it very well thank you.
- I have to say that the whole headless and linux thing is really confused since all the guides I otherwise called headless for the windows setup. I would like to make a more relevant subsection for win users such as the (pause) "fix" I found that is NOT mentioned anywhere on the internet. probably because this is by no means the way that command should work.
- Hey, thank you for discussing your difference in opinion here instead of edit-warring, it was very nice to see. The windows section that was created based on the suggestion here sadly had many errors and was mostly a copy paste from the main section. To fix this, I merged the windows command for starting the server into the main section and removed the windows section again. I hope this works well for everyone involved. -- Bilka (talk) - Admin 08:56, 10 March 2020 (UTC)