Talk:Enemies

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Update required!

The new update (.11) added Spitters. Please update :) I'll link here from the Quick Start Guide, so it's important that this gets updated

Attack speed

What are the the attack speeds of the various enemies?

Here are the attack speeds of various enemies. They were measured by using Audacity to record attack sound effects and find the interval between them.

• Small Biter - 1.7/s
• Medium Biter - 1.7/s
• Big Biter - 1.7/s
• Behemoth Biter - 1.2/s

• Small Spitter - 0.46/s
• Medium Spitter - 0.46/s
• Big Spitter - 0.46/s
• Behemoth Spitter - 0.46/s

• Small Worm - 0.91/s
• Medium Worm - 0.65/s
• Big Worm - 0.65/s

I'll add them into the table now. Swordstone (talk) 18:28, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

The "Advanced: Evolution factor components and computation" box is outdated

The box uses the pre 0.13 formula for the evolution factor, that doesn't use the squared factor. It contradicts the description above and it can't be used in the current version. Imo it can be deleted. --Unique 2 (talk) 23:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out and thank you to User:Vornicus for updating the relevant text and removing the rest! -- Bilka (talk) - Admin 14:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Evolution pollution equivalent

Adding context here because the numbers were added without further context: Pollution equivalent for the different sources is source_evo_increase ÷ pollution_evo_increase. So it is dependent on the map settings. For the table with evo factor and pollution equivalent it's based on the pollution only evolution factor explained in the advanced section, see also the chart there. -- Bilka (talk) - Admin 11:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Update to 2.0

So, Space Age should be out by now (haven't had the chance to play yet). Judging by the FFFs, that means most of this page is now Nauvis-exclusive.

This page is long enough as is, so I propose moving this page's Nauvis-exclusive content to a new page (such as Enemies (Nauvis)), creating new pages for Gleba and Vulkanus (such as Enemies (Gleba) and either Enemies (Vulkanus) or Demolisher), and keeping this page with information applicable to all planets with enemies along with links to the new pages documenting each planet's own hostile biosphere.

This is a major change, and we're still early in the 2.0 update phase (and I'm a new editor on this wiki), so I'd rather play it safe than do this without any input. So: Any thoughts?

-tecanec (talk) 06:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Since the Space Age expansion is paid, not everyone will play with the different planets. So I'm a bit hesitant to remove the nauvis enemies from the general overview. But I agree that the different planet enemies should have their own pages. I'm wondering what mechanics will be similar between the different enemy types that would stay on the general overview. For example, demolishers don't have evolution and pollution and the defense section from this page also doesn't apply. Maybe we could have this page state something like "this is about nauvis enemies, for other planets see enemies (gleba) and enemies (vulcanus)" and separate it that way? Also, the expansion comes out in a few hours, it's not quite released yet ;) -- Bilka (talk) - Admin 08:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Fair point about the non-expansion owners - we don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable or left out by just assuming that everyone has the expansion. So, should this page be moved to Enemies (Nauvis), or should we make Enemies (Nauvis) a redirect to this page? Or should we just not have it at all? Also, if something applies to enemies on all planets, where should it go? Do we just keep it here and make this an "enemies not strictly found on a planet that isn't Nauvis"-page? - tecanec (talk) 08:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)