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Bilka: Redlinks should be nowiki-ed instead of removing them completely

2018-08-01T05:42:50Z

Redlinks should be nowiki-ed instead of removing them completely

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	:: Unfortunately, I don't have the user permissions to make direct edits to the main page, nor deletion of other pages, etc. I have the lowest permissions as far as I can tell.		:: Unfortunately, I don't have the user permissions to make direct edits to the main page, nor deletion of other pages, etc. I have the lowest permissions as far as I can tell.
	:: If you look at my contributions, I've been going around for the last month or so and fixing pages that hadn't be updated in a while, or contained a lot of bad grammar and 1st person referrals created a long time ago. As for talking about direction of the wiki, I'd be happy to talk to you about suggested changes. From what I can tell, you've been around longer than me, so do let me know if there's any unwritten rules or recommendations from the devs on how the wiki should look.		:: If you look at my contributions, I've been going around for the last month or so and fixing pages that hadn't be updated in a while, or contained a lot of bad grammar and 1st person referrals created a long time ago. As for talking about direction of the wiki, I'd be happy to talk to you about suggested changes. From what I can tell, you've been around longer than me, so do let me know if there's any unwritten rules or recommendations from the devs on how the wiki should look.
	:: As for my personal view of how the wiki works, I notice how there's lots of individual pages containing 1-2 paragraphs of text, I think those should be merged into the page they're connected to, and deleted. An example would be Railway/Do_not_cross_the_tracks, which feels like an unnecessary page that should just be merged with [[railway]]. There's lots more pages like this one that feel unnecessary and redundant in some cases. It's not really professional to make tiny pages just for one or two tips, which the old wiki editors seem to have done. Plus, all the redirects, list pages like [https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Tips_%26_Tricks Tips_&_tricks] and whatnot need fixing/deletion. Not to mention people unsure of image naming convention, causing broken image links. Let me know what you think.		:: As for my personal view of how the wiki works, I notice how there's lots of individual pages containing 1-2 paragraphs of text, I think those should be merged into the page they're connected to, and deleted. An example would be <nowiki>[[Railway/Do_not_cross_the_tracks]]</nowiki>, which feels like an unnecessary page that should just be merged with [[railway]]. There's lots more pages like this one that feel unnecessary and redundant in some cases. It's not really professional to make tiny pages just for one or two tips, which the old wiki editors seem to have done. Plus, all the redirects, list pages like [https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Tips_%26_Tricks Tips_&_tricks] and whatnot need fixing/deletion. Not to mention people unsure of image naming convention, causing broken image links. Let me know what you think.
	:: Update: I created a [[Template:Disambiguation\|template for disambiguations]], usable by <nowiki>{{disambiguation}}</nowiki> on any page that lists multiple things. I've done this already to [[Capsules]] and [[Armor]]. Let me know if this is cool and I should keep changing pages like these. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 21:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC)		:: Update: I created a [[Template:Disambiguation\|template for disambiguations]], usable by <nowiki>{{disambiguation}}</nowiki> on any page that lists multiple things. I've done this already to [[Capsules]] and [[Armor]]. Let me know if this is cool and I should keep changing pages like these. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 21:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
	:::Hi,		:::Hi,
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	:::: Oh, I wasn't asking for a promotion (even though it'd make me more useful), I was just saying I can't do the edit. As for the disam. pages I made (''you're welcome for the template''), I have to disagree and agree with what you said. I envision a system similar to other game wikis, where they have disambiguation pages to help people searching for a certain item on the tip of their tongue, as well as concept pages for people looking for info in general about a game mechanic. Examples of a concept page would be a page called Mining, and would talk about how mining works in the game, where as "plural" pages like [[Capsules]] should list all capsules in a disam. page. A concept page for capsules would be something global like "Throw-able weapon", which would also list all capsules, grenades, etc, as well as info about what defines a throw-able weapon. Or, use a quick summary system like the [[Armor]] page has, which is like a disambiguation-concept page hybrid. This is my favorite, and why I made the armor page like it is.		:::: Oh, I wasn't asking for a promotion (even though it'd make me more useful), I was just saying I can't do the edit. As for the disam. pages I made (''you're welcome for the template''), I have to disagree and agree with what you said. I envision a system similar to other game wikis, where they have disambiguation pages to help people searching for a certain item on the tip of their tongue, as well as concept pages for people looking for info in general about a game mechanic. Examples of a concept page would be a page called Mining, and would talk about how mining works in the game, where as "plural" pages like [[Capsules]] should list all capsules in a disam. page. A concept page for capsules would be something global like "Throw-able weapon", which would also list all capsules, grenades, etc, as well as info about what defines a throw-able weapon. Or, use a quick summary system like the [[Armor]] page has, which is like a disambiguation-concept page hybrid. This is my favorite, and why I made the armor page like it is.
	:::: The types of pages that I have a problem with, and should be made into disam. pages, are pages that just list templates to bring a bunch of articles onto one page. It's ugly, and redundant. Example being: Armor Modules. It just uses templates to bring info onto the page, this should be made into a disambiguation, pointing to all the different modules. What modules '''are''' should be talked about on the modular/power armor pages, and what each one '''does''' should be talked about on their respective pages. As it stands now, it's poorly formatted and unnecessary. But, that's just my vision, it's similar to the system that other wikis use. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 23:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC)		:::: The types of pages that I have a problem with, and should be made into disam. pages, are pages that just list templates to bring a bunch of articles onto one page. It's ugly, and redundant. Example being: <nowiki>[[Armor Modules]]</nowiki>. It just uses templates to bring info onto the page, this should be made into a disambiguation, pointing to all the different modules. What modules '''are''' should be talked about on the modular/power armor pages, and what each one '''does''' should be talked about on their respective pages. As it stands now, it's poorly formatted and unnecessary. But, that's just my vision, it's similar to the system that other wikis use. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 23:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
	::::: Ok, I agree with you on that, and I like that you're looking at, or know about, the way other wikis do this. Maybe we can create some kind of a todo list/page (if we don't already have it) and assign tasks to each other. [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 00:02, 6 August 2016 (UTC)		::::: Ok, I agree with you on that, and I like that you're looking at, or know about, the way other wikis do this. Maybe we can create some kind of a todo list/page (if we don't already have it) and assign tasks to each other. [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 00:02, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

	:::::: (Whew, that's a lot of colons) I think the Wiki to-do list page is ''supposed'' to be what you're describing. But, if it's only meant to be between us two, it'd be better to use a subpage under one of our userpages, eg User:Gangsir/GangWombatToDo. Thanks for helping me with this, by the way. I'm hesitant to make lots of changes without too much oversight and help. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 00:43, 6 August 2016 (UTC)		:::::: (Whew, that's a lot of colons) I think the <nowiki>[[Wiki to-do list]]</nowiki> page is ''supposed'' to be what you're describing. But, if it's only meant to be between us two, it'd be better to use a subpage under one of our userpages, eg User:Gangsir/GangWombatToDo. Thanks for helping me with this, by the way. I'm hesitant to make lots of changes without too much oversight and help. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 00:43, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
	::::::: For now a sub-userpage will suffice. I created one at [[User:TheWombatGuru/Wiki to-do list]]. And don't be afraid to edit, every mistake can be reversed, we can even back the wiki up to a few hours ago if something really gets messed up. [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 11:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)		::::::: For now a sub-userpage will suffice. I created one at [[User:TheWombatGuru/Wiki to-do list]]. And don't be afraid to edit, every mistake can be reversed, we can even back the wiki up to a few hours ago if something really gets messed up. [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 11:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

EnigmaticAussie: /* About the Main page */ Removal of dead links

2018-08-01T01:04:45Z

About the Main page: Removal of dead links

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	:: Unfortunately, I don't have the user permissions to make direct edits to the main page, nor deletion of other pages, etc. I have the lowest permissions as far as I can tell.		:: Unfortunately, I don't have the user permissions to make direct edits to the main page, nor deletion of other pages, etc. I have the lowest permissions as far as I can tell.
	:: If you look at my contributions, I've been going around for the last month or so and fixing pages that hadn't be updated in a while, or contained a lot of bad grammar and 1st person referrals created a long time ago. As for talking about direction of the wiki, I'd be happy to talk to you about suggested changes. From what I can tell, you've been around longer than me, so do let me know if there's any unwritten rules or recommendations from the devs on how the wiki should look.		:: If you look at my contributions, I've been going around for the last month or so and fixing pages that hadn't be updated in a while, or contained a lot of bad grammar and 1st person referrals created a long time ago. As for talking about direction of the wiki, I'd be happy to talk to you about suggested changes. From what I can tell, you've been around longer than me, so do let me know if there's any unwritten rules or recommendations from the devs on how the wiki should look.
	:: As for my personal view of how the wiki works, I notice how there's lots of individual pages containing 1-2 paragraphs of text, I think those should be merged into the page they're connected to, and deleted. An example would be [[Railway/Do_not_cross_the_tracks]], which feels like an unnecessary page that should just be merged with [[railway]]. There's lots more pages like this one that feel unnecessary and redundant in some cases. It's not really professional to make tiny pages just for one or two tips, which the old wiki editors seem to have done. Plus, all the redirects, list pages like [https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Tips_%26_Tricks Tips_&_tricks] and whatnot need fixing/deletion. Not to mention people unsure of image naming convention, causing broken image links. Let me know what you think.		:: As for my personal view of how the wiki works, I notice how there's lots of individual pages containing 1-2 paragraphs of text, I think those should be merged into the page they're connected to, and deleted. An example would be Railway/Do_not_cross_the_tracks, which feels like an unnecessary page that should just be merged with [[railway]]. There's lots more pages like this one that feel unnecessary and redundant in some cases. It's not really professional to make tiny pages just for one or two tips, which the old wiki editors seem to have done. Plus, all the redirects, list pages like [https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Tips_%26_Tricks Tips_&_tricks] and whatnot need fixing/deletion. Not to mention people unsure of image naming convention, causing broken image links. Let me know what you think.
	:: Update: I created a [[Template:Disambiguation\|template for disambiguations]], usable by <nowiki>{{disambiguation}}</nowiki> on any page that lists multiple things. I've done this already to [[Capsules]] and [[Armor]]. Let me know if this is cool and I should keep changing pages like these. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 21:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC)		:: Update: I created a [[Template:Disambiguation\|template for disambiguations]], usable by <nowiki>{{disambiguation}}</nowiki> on any page that lists multiple things. I've done this already to [[Capsules]] and [[Armor]]. Let me know if this is cool and I should keep changing pages like these. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 21:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
	:::Hi,		:::Hi,
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	:::: Oh, I wasn't asking for a promotion (even though it'd make me more useful), I was just saying I can't do the edit. As for the disam. pages I made (''you're welcome for the template''), I have to disagree and agree with what you said. I envision a system similar to other game wikis, where they have disambiguation pages to help people searching for a certain item on the tip of their tongue, as well as concept pages for people looking for info in general about a game mechanic. Examples of a concept page would be a page called Mining, and would talk about how mining works in the game, where as "plural" pages like [[Capsules]] should list all capsules in a disam. page. A concept page for capsules would be something global like "Throw-able weapon", which would also list all capsules, grenades, etc, as well as info about what defines a throw-able weapon. Or, use a quick summary system like the [[Armor]] page has, which is like a disambiguation-concept page hybrid. This is my favorite, and why I made the armor page like it is.		:::: Oh, I wasn't asking for a promotion (even though it'd make me more useful), I was just saying I can't do the edit. As for the disam. pages I made (''you're welcome for the template''), I have to disagree and agree with what you said. I envision a system similar to other game wikis, where they have disambiguation pages to help people searching for a certain item on the tip of their tongue, as well as concept pages for people looking for info in general about a game mechanic. Examples of a concept page would be a page called Mining, and would talk about how mining works in the game, where as "plural" pages like [[Capsules]] should list all capsules in a disam. page. A concept page for capsules would be something global like "Throw-able weapon", which would also list all capsules, grenades, etc, as well as info about what defines a throw-able weapon. Or, use a quick summary system like the [[Armor]] page has, which is like a disambiguation-concept page hybrid. This is my favorite, and why I made the armor page like it is.
	:::: The types of pages that I have a problem with, and should be made into disam. pages, are pages that just list templates to bring a bunch of articles onto one page. It's ugly, and redundant. Example being: [[Armor Modules]]. It just uses templates to bring info onto the page, this should be made into a disambiguation, pointing to all the different modules. What modules '''are''' should be talked about on the modular/power armor pages, and what each one '''does''' should be talked about on their respective pages. As it stands now, it's poorly formatted and unnecessary. But, that's just my vision, it's similar to the system that other wikis use. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 23:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC)		:::: The types of pages that I have a problem with, and should be made into disam. pages, are pages that just list templates to bring a bunch of articles onto one page. It's ugly, and redundant. Example being: Armor Modules. It just uses templates to bring info onto the page, this should be made into a disambiguation, pointing to all the different modules. What modules '''are''' should be talked about on the modular/power armor pages, and what each one '''does''' should be talked about on their respective pages. As it stands now, it's poorly formatted and unnecessary. But, that's just my vision, it's similar to the system that other wikis use. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 23:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
	::::: Ok, I agree with you on that, and I like that you're looking at, or know about, the way other wikis do this. Maybe we can create some kind of a todo list/page (if we don't already have it) and assign tasks to each other. [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 00:02, 6 August 2016 (UTC)		::::: Ok, I agree with you on that, and I like that you're looking at, or know about, the way other wikis do this. Maybe we can create some kind of a todo list/page (if we don't already have it) and assign tasks to each other. [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 00:02, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

	:::::: (Whew, that's a lot of colons) I think the [[Wiki to-do list]] page is ''supposed'' to be what you're describing. But, if it's only meant to be between us two, it'd be better to use a subpage under one of our userpages, eg User:Gangsir/GangWombatToDo. Thanks for helping me with this, by the way. I'm hesitant to make lots of changes without too much oversight and help. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 00:43, 6 August 2016 (UTC)		:::::: (Whew, that's a lot of colons) I think the Wiki to-do list page is ''supposed'' to be what you're describing. But, if it's only meant to be between us two, it'd be better to use a subpage under one of our userpages, eg User:Gangsir/GangWombatToDo. Thanks for helping me with this, by the way. I'm hesitant to make lots of changes without too much oversight and help. --[[User:Gangsir\|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir\|talk]]) 00:43, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
	::::::: For now a sub-userpage will suffice. I created one at [[User:TheWombatGuru/Wiki to-do list]]. And don't be afraid to edit, every mistake can be reversed, we can even back the wiki up to a few hours ago if something really gets messed up. [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 11:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)		::::::: For now a sub-userpage will suffice. I created one at [[User:TheWombatGuru/Wiki to-do list]]. And don't be afraid to edit, every mistake can be reversed, we can even back the wiki up to a few hours ago if something really gets messed up. [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 11:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

TheWombatGuru: /* Changing and breaking things */

2016-08-27T00:25:09Z

Changing and breaking things

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	::[[User:Emailformygames\|Emailformygames]] ([[User talk:Emailformygames\|talk]]) 23:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)		::[[User:Emailformygames\|Emailformygames]] ([[User talk:Emailformygames\|talk]]) 23:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
			:::First of all, thank you for the reply. I was quite scared you had taken off and I wouldn't see you again.

			:::I read that FFF post as well back then, and I didn't like what they said as well. I then also reviewed the wiki here to the others out there, and they were more complete, but also more outdated, and now, the wiki is here is both quite complete and up to date.

			:::I'll try to create the templates using external css and js files, though until your response I didn't know you could use javascript here, so that's gonna require some research ;p

			:::I hope to see you back some day.
			::: [[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 00:25, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Emailformygames: /* Changing and breaking things */

2016-08-26T23:36:58Z

Changing and breaking things

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	:Greetings,		:Greetings,
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			::I mailed the admins a while back and I was turned down for rights. To an extent I understand their position - I'm a stranger on the internet asking for rights that could harm their website, but it completely blocks me from being able to create and test new infoboxes and parsing templates. They recommended creating code and emailing it to them to implement, but unfortunately it makes it extremely hard to troubleshoot or test the infoboxes before they're actually deployed - plus the lag between email and implementation is frustrating especially when there is something not working. While I don't care for Wikia anymore, at least there it was generally possible to get permissions to quickly upgrade things.

			::I don't blame you it's just a frustrating position because this wiki has potential, but the old code and lack of support or acknowledgement from the devs is fairly demoralizing especially after the dev blog I referenced earlier. [https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&offset=20151119191724&limit=500&tagfilter=&contribs=user&target=Emailformygames&namespace= My changes back then] and the [https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-116 devblog]. "Quite a bit of community effort went into it, however to be honest we don't really know if many people are using it. Also it is still lacking in completeness and up-to-date-ness." No idea why I would put 500-1000 changes and multiple days into upgrading the wiki if not many people are using it. Plus, after updating and verifying all of the information in the item and research infoboxes, moving pages to the correct names, updating images, putting [[User:Emailformygames/test\|work into updating infoboxes]], etc. the information was still "lacking in [...] up-to-date-ness". Just seemed quite insulting after putting in so much work for free.

			::The things I listed are the general things that need to be done - for now I'm going to step away and possibly come back later or in v14. For infoboxes the best case scenario in my opinion is starting from scratch using mostly HTML - put the css in another file instead of doing it inline which infocard is trying to do and then parse with js or something instead of the templates (I'm not too familiar with parsing, but I know that doing it with wiki templates and wiki code is not efficient or easy to work with when doing more complicated things). I did notice that someone had gone through and made subtemplates to try and update the templates, but (at least when I was here last) they hadn't implemented it fully and so I had to use a mishmash of different templates to get things on the main templates to work. -- just looked and it was indeed your work :)

			::Unfortunately by using wiki code many things that should work don't. An example of this is switches as can be seen on the ConvertName template - if you don't have an output after each option the code will sometimes work while other times it doesn't (it's really finicky for some strange reason). This is one of the reasons I try to avoid using wiki code if possible - I think it has something to do with how wiki code is changed into real code (html/css) by the mediawiki software.

			::[[User:Emailformygames\|Emailformygames]] ([[User talk:Emailformygames\|talk]]) 23:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

TheWombatGuru: /* Changing and breaking things */

2016-08-26T22:47:01Z

Changing and breaking things

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	[[User:Emailformygames\|Emailformygames]] ([[User talk:Emailformygames\|talk]]) 22:38, 26 August 2016 (UTC)		[[User:Emailformygames\|Emailformygames]] ([[User talk:Emailformygames\|talk]]) 22:38, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

			:I'm sorry to see you go, and I hope I can turn you around.
			:I had already sent an email to the developers requesting you get more rights.
			:I'm also sorry you're not happy with how things happen at this wiki. I've only been an admin for a week, and before that, the wiki didn't have an active admin for about a year. This post shows you know your stuff, and if you want me to do some of this stuff until you have your rights, I'll do it without (well, I'll still look at it, but I won't be conservative) questioning.

			:I was really happy to see an active user appearing since I've been admin and it hurts me that I couldn't do anything to make you feel welcome/able to do what you can do.

			:About the infoboxes and infocards, I agree that they're confusing, but I did (2 years ago when I edited a bit on them) not have the skills to completely overhaul them. I've improved and maybe we can work on them together.

			:I'm sorry about the edit to ConvertName, I saw you put the output of the switch statement after every possible value like at "armor-making-research", that's not required, so I changed it and hoped you saw that. That's all. I didn't want to stop you form doing what you were doing.

			:Greetings,
			:[[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 22:47, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Emailformygames: /* Changing and breaking things */ new section

2016-08-26T22:38:44Z

Changing and breaking things: new section

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	On the [[turret]] page all of the current in-game turrets are listed. Is this wiki moving away from individual pages with infoboxes and towards category pages that detail all of the items in that category with redirects on the individual pages leading to the category page? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emailformygames\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheWombatGuru\|contribs]]) 22:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->		On the [[turret]] page all of the current in-game turrets are listed. Is this wiki moving away from individual pages with infoboxes and towards category pages that detail all of the items in that category with redirects on the individual pages leading to the category page? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emailformygames\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheWombatGuru\|contribs]]) 22:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
	:We are not. The current plan is to have disambiguation pages like [[Assembling machine]] and individual pages like [[Assembling machine 1]]. If you have any other questions, or are still not sure about what to do concerning this problem, contact me. And please end each answer on a talk page with 4 tildes (Like so: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>)[[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 21:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)		:We are not. The current plan is to have disambiguation pages like [[Assembling machine]] and individual pages like [[Assembling machine 1]]. If you have any other questions, or are still not sure about what to do concerning this problem, contact me. And please end each answer on a talk page with 4 tildes (Like so: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>)[[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 21:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

			== Changing and breaking things ==

			Generally I go through and fix/update things every time there is a major update for the games that I like to play. This takes me about a week and yes, while I'm updating things there are some broken links, but by the time that I'm done everything works because I go through and double check my work.

			Unfortunately when you go and change things while I'm working (like the ConvertName template) it causes excess problems because you're breaking things that I don't know about while I'm working on it. An example is your change to the "modular armor" entry in the ConvertName template which then broke 3 different links in the research pages that I was working on and took a 20min detour just to figure out what had happened.

			I've had problems with this wiki, the community surrounding it, and the admins here. There has been little support and last time I started doing a full upgrade to the wiki they created a dev blog that basically said the wiki had low traffic, wasn't worth it, and instead promoted a 3rd party guide. On top of being denied abilities to upgrade the wiki, delete old content, lock archived pages, and change css/js so that the infobox and parsing templates aren't complete spaghetti code. It seems like I was right in leaving this wiki the first time.

			If you're interested in continuing the wiki rehaul for v13 (and soon to be v14) then here's a list of things that I haven't gotten around to yet:

			* Updating all of the item pages (I've verified that all items should have pages minus the [[turret]]s, but that doesn't mean that their values are correct)
			* The values and names of the following research pages need to be verified:
			** battery equipment
			** battery mk2 equipment
			** portable solar panel
			** portable fusion reactor
			** personal defense laser
			** discharge defense
			** modules
			** speed module
			** productivity module
			** efficiency module
			** effect transmission
			** rocket silo
			* Images may have been changed as well so some of those may need to be updated (I think I got most of them though)
			* Achievements:
			** [[Achievements]] page could use some love
			*** What the achievements button looks like and where it can be found on the UI (along with images)
			*** A description on how to track achievements
			** All of the individual pages need to be created
			** All of the images need to be added (minus the one linked below)
			*** I would recommend using this this naming convention: name-achievement.png
			**** Example:     ''So-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fish-achievement.png''

			[[File:So-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fish-achievement.png]]

			Oh and if you're interested in what my plans for the Infobox were, I would recommend making one infobox that is flexible instead of 10 different types and subtypes of infobox some of which are more out dated than the last. Stop using infocard and all of the nested templates - it only creates more problems - instead put css in an actual css file instead of running it inline. Also, changing the parsing (there is a technology, an item, and a few more) templates to use something like JS would probably be better than using wiki code which causes limited inputs or long load times (assuming you increase the number of inputs).

			o7

			[[User:Emailformygames\|Emailformygames]] ([[User talk:Emailformygames\|talk]]) 22:38, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

TheWombatGuru at 21:01, 26 August 2016

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	On the [[turret]] page all of the current in-game turrets are listed. Is this wiki moving away from individual pages with infoboxes and towards category pages that detail all of the items in that category with redirects on the individual pages leading to the category page? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emailformygames\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheWombatGuru\|contribs]]) 22:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->		On the [[turret]] page all of the current in-game turrets are listed. Is this wiki moving away from individual pages with infoboxes and towards category pages that detail all of the items in that category with redirects on the individual pages leading to the category page? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emailformygames\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheWombatGuru\|contribs]]) 22:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
			:We are not. The current plan is to have disambiguation pages like [[Assembling machine]] and individual pages like [[Assembling machine 1]]. If you have any other questions, or are still not sure about what to do concerning this problem, contact me. And please end each answer on a talk page with 4 tildes (Like so: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>)[[User:TheWombatGuru\|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru\|talk]]) 21:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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	On the [[turret]] page all of the current in-game turrets are listed. Is this wiki moving away from individual pages with infoboxes and towards category pages that detail all of the items in that category with redirects on the individual pages leading to the category page? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emailformygames\|Emailformygames]] ([[User talk:Emailformygames\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Emailformygames\|contribs]]) 20:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->		On the [[turret]] page all of the current in-game turrets are listed. Is this wiki moving away from individual pages with infoboxes and towards category pages that detail all of the items in that category with redirects on the individual pages leading to the category page? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emailformygames\|Emailformygames]] ([[User talk:Emailformygames\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Emailformygames\|contribs]]) 21:17, 26 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

TheWombatGuru at 20:25, 26 August 2016

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