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Thrawcheld: /* Processed scrap in terms of stacks */ blue belt counts

2026-10-15T21:22:50Z

Processed scrap in terms of stacks: blue belt counts

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	! colspan="2" \| Per 1 scrap		! colspan="2" \| Per 1 scrap
	! colspan="2" \| Per 20,000 scrap		! colspan="2" \| Per 20,000 scrap
			! rowspan="2" \| Per blue belt<br>output
	! colspan="2" \| Proportion		! colspan="2" \| Proportion
	\|-		\|-
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	\| 600		\| 600
	\| 3		\| 3
			\| 2.25
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.05%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.05%
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	\| 800		\| 800
	\| 4		\| 4
			\| 3
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.67%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%
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	\| 1200		\| 1200
	\| 12		\| 12
			\| 4.5
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>10%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>10%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>8.22%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>8.22%
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	\| 600		\| 600
	\| 3		\| 3
			\| 2.25
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.05%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.05%
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	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 4		\| 4
			\| 0.75
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>1.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>1.67%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%
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	\| 1000		\| 1000
	\| 20		\| 20
			\| 3.75
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>8.33%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>8.33%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>13.70%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>13.70%
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	\| 4000		\| 4000
	\| 40		\| 40
			\| 15
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>33.33%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>33.33%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>27.40%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>27.40%
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	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 4		\| 4
			\| 0.75
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>1.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>1.67%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%
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	\| 400		\| 400
	\| 4		\| 4
			\| 1.5
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>3.33%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>3.33%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%
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	\| 1400		\| 1400
	\| 28		\| 28
			\| 5.25
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>11.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>11.67%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>19.18%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>19.18%
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	\| 800		\| 800
	\| 8		\| 8
			\| 3
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.66%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.66%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5.48%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5.48%
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	\| 800		\| 800
	\| 16		\| 16
			\| 3
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.67%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>10.96%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>10.96%
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	\| 12000		\| 12000
	\| 146		\| 146
			\| 45
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 100%		\|style="text-align: left"\| 100%
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 100%		\|style="text-align: left"\| 100%

Thrawcheld: products for holmium plate and electrolyte were reversed

2025-09-12T08:22:01Z

products for holmium plate and electrolyte were reversed

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 holmium solution
 * holmium plate
 ** electromagnetic plant
 ** mech armor
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 ** fusion power cell (on Aquilo)
 ** lithium (on Aquilo)
 * electromagnetic science pack
 |-

Thrawcheld: /* Observations */ Aquilo is a more useful destination for plastic exports due to lack of coal

2025-02-03T21:48:45Z

Observations: Aquilo is a more useful destination for plastic exports due to lack of coal

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	* Iron ore is almost useless. The only thing you can do with it is smelt it for more iron plates (and you might as well burn solid fuel to do so), but you will probably get enough of those anyway from recycling gears. There's no point exporting it since it's equally available everywhere else. You might as well void it with a pair of recyclers.		* Iron ore is almost useless. The only thing you can do with it is smelt it for more iron plates (and you might as well burn solid fuel to do so), but you will probably get enough of those anyway from recycling gears. There's no point exporting it since it's equally available everywhere else. You might as well void it with a pair of recyclers.
	* The only useful things that consume copper plates are superconductors, batteries, copper cables, and LDS. Other than superconductors, batteries seem like the most likely shortfall. Crafting more LDS would likely result in a large surplus of plastic (red circuits recycle to about equal amounts of copper and plastic, but LDS uses four times as much copper). You might also make red science on Fulgora.		* The only useful things that consume copper plates are superconductors, batteries, copper cables, and LDS. Other than superconductors, batteries seem like the most likely shortfall. Crafting more LDS would likely result in a large surplus of plastic (red circuits recycle to about equal amounts of copper and plastic, but LDS uses four times as much copper). You might also make red science on Fulgora.
	* Superconductors are also the only thing you are likely to make in bulk that consumes plastic... unless you need more red circuits than you can get from scrap, which implies you're getting all your plastic from LDS and have a large surplus of copper. You will likely have a surplus of plastic, which could usefully be exported, probably to ~~Vulcanus~~ which is the planet that has the most trouble making it.		* Superconductors are also the only thing you are likely to make in bulk that consumes plastic... unless you need more red circuits than you can get from scrap, which implies you're getting all your plastic from LDS and have a large surplus of copper. You will likely have a surplus of plastic, which could usefully be exported, probably to Aquilo which is the planet that has the most trouble making it (due to lack of coal).
	* You will probably get more solid fuel than you can use. It's certainly not worth making it from the oil sands.		* You will probably get more solid fuel than you can use. It's certainly not worth making it from the oil sands.

Thrawcheld: /* Processed scrap in terms of stacks */ alignment; missing column

2025-02-02T16:16:02Z

Processed scrap in terms of stacks: alignment; missing column

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	\| 600		\| 600
	\| 3		\| 3
	\| 5%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5%
	\| 2.05%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.05%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Battery}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Battery}}
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	\| 800		\| 800
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| 2.74%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.67%
			\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Concrete}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Concrete}}
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	\| 1200		\| 1200
	\| 12		\| 12
	\| 10%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>10%
	\| 8.22%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>8.22%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Copper cable}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Copper cable}}
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	\| 600		\| 600
	\| 3		\| 3
	\| 5%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5%
	\| 2.05%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.05%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Holmium ore}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Holmium ore}}
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	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| 1.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>1.67%
	\| 2.74%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Ice}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Ice}}
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	\| 1000		\| 1000
	\| 20		\| 20
	\| 8.33%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>8.33%
	\| 13.70%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>13.70%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Iron gear wheel}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Iron gear wheel}}
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	\| 4000		\| 4000
	\| 40		\| 40
	\| 33.33%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>33.33%
	\| 27.40%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>27.40%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Low density structure}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Low density structure}}
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	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| 1.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>1.67%
	\| 2.74%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Processing unit}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Processing unit}}
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	\| 400		\| 400
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| 3.33%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>3.33%
	\| 2.74%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>2.74%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Solid fuel}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Solid fuel}}
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	\| 1400		\| 1400
	\| 28		\| 28
	\| 11.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>11.67%
	\| 19.18%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>19.18%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Steel plate}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Steel plate}}
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	\| 800		\| 800
	\| 8		\| 8
	\| 6.66%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.66%
	\| 5.48%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>5.48%
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Stone}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Stone}}
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	\| 800		\| 800
	\| 16		\| 16
	\| 6.67%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">00</span>6.67%
	\| 10.96%		\|style="text-align: left"\| <span style="color: transparent; user-select: none">0</span>10.96%
	\|- class="sortbottom"		\|- class="sortbottom"
	\|style="text-align: left"\| '''Total'''		\|style="text-align: left"\| '''Total'''
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	\| 12000		\| 12000
	\| 146		\| 146
	\| 100%		\|style="text-align: left"\| 100%
	\| 100%		\|style="text-align: left"\| 100%
	\|}		\|}
	The total per 1 scrap is the expected quantity of ''something'', calculated as the sum of expected quantities of the other items (this calculation is valid since they are statistically independent). This is not the same as the probability of getting ''something'', which is 0.468775584950143, calculated as 1 minus the probability of getting nothing, i.e. the product of 1 minus the probability of getting each item. The difference is accounted for by the fact that each craft of the scrap recycling recipe can produce multiple items.		The total per 1 scrap is the expected quantity of ''something'', calculated as the sum of expected quantities of the other items (this calculation is valid since they are statistically independent). This is not the same as the probability of getting ''something'', which is 0.468775584950143, calculated as 1 minus the probability of getting nothing, i.e. the product of 1 minus the probability of getting each item. The difference is accounted for by the fact that each craft of the scrap recycling recipe can produce multiple items.

Thrawcheld: /* Processed scrap in terms of stacks */ proportion, quantity → items, put items and stacks in a consistent order

2025-02-02T16:05:45Z

Processed scrap in terms of stacks: proportion, quantity → items, put items and stacks in a consistent order

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Thrawcheld: /* Processed scrap in terms of stacks */ blue circuits and stone numbers were off

2025-02-02T15:55:02Z

Processed scrap in terms of stacks: blue circuits and stone numbers were off

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	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| ~~200~~		\| 400
	\|-		\|-
	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Solid fuel}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Solid fuel}}
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Stone}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Stone}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.02		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.04
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.~~0004~~		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0008
	\| 8		\| 16
	\| ~~400~~		\| 800
	\|- class="sortbottom"		\|- class="sortbottom"
	\|style="text-align: left"\| '''Total'''		\|style="text-align: left"\| '''Total'''

Thrawcheld: /* Processed scrap in terms of stacks */ why 20,000

2025-01-29T11:50:23Z

Processed scrap in terms of stacks: why 20,000

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	== Processed scrap in terms of stacks ==		== Processed scrap in terms of stacks ==
	Recycling scrap produces the following numbers of stacks. The table lists expected numbers from 20,000 scrap, which is 400 stacks.		Recycling scrap produces the following numbers of stacks. The table lists expected numbers from 20,000 scrap, which is 400 stacks. This is the smallest quantity that produces whole numbers for every product.

	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align: right"		{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align: right"

Thrawcheld: /* Processed scrap in terms of stacks */ numbers below 1 should all be left aligned

2025-01-29T11:49:01Z

Processed scrap in terms of stacks: numbers below 1 should all be left aligned

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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Advanced circuit}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Advanced circuit}}
	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 0.03		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.03
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.00015		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.00015
	\| 3		\| 3
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Battery}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Battery}}
	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 0.04		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.04
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Concrete}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Concrete}}
	\| 100		\| 100
	\| 0.06		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.06
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0006		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0006
	\| 12		\| 12
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Copper cable}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Copper cable}}
	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 0.03		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.03
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.00015		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.00015
	\| 3		\| 3
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Holmium ore}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Holmium ore}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.01		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.01
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Ice}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Ice}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.05		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.05
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.001		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.001
	\| 20		\| 20
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Iron gear wheel}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Iron gear wheel}}
	\| 100		\| 100
	\| 0.2		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.2
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.002
	\| 40		\| 40
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Low density structure}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Low density structure}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.01		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.01
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Processing unit}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Processing unit}}
	\| 100		\| 100
	\| 0.02		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.02
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Solid fuel}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Solid fuel}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.07		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.07
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0014		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0014
	\| 28		\| 28
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Steel plate}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Steel plate}}
	\| 100		\| 100
	\| 0.04		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.04
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0004		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0004
	\| 8		\| 8
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Stone}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Stone}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.02		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.02
	\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0004		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0004
	\| 8		\| 8
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	\|style="text-align: left"\| '''Total'''		\|style="text-align: left"\| '''Total'''
	\| —		\| —
	\| 0.6		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.6
	\|style="text-align: center"\| —		\|style="text-align: center"\| —
	\| 146		\| 146

Thrawcheld: /* Processed scrap in terms of stacks */ number alignment

2025-01-29T11:47:49Z

Processed scrap in terms of stacks: number alignment

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	Recycling scrap produces the following numbers of stacks. The table lists expected numbers from 20,000 scrap, which is 400 stacks.		Recycling scrap produces the following numbers of stacks. The table lists expected numbers from 20,000 scrap, which is 400 stacks.

	{\| class="wikitable sortable"		{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align: right"
	! rowspan="2" \| Product		! rowspan="2" \| Product
	! rowspan="2" \| Stack size		! rowspan="2" \| Stack size
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	! Quantity		! Quantity
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Advanced circuit}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Advanced circuit}}
	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 0.03		\| 0.03
	\| 0.00015		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.00015
	\| 3		\| 3
	\| 600		\| 600
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Battery}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Battery}}
	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 0.04		\| 0.04
	\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| 800		\| 800
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Concrete}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Concrete}}
	\| 100		\| 100
	\| 0.06		\| 0.06
	\| 0.0006		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0006
	\| 12		\| 12
	\| 1200		\| 1200
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Copper cable}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Copper cable}}
	\| 200		\| 200
	\| 0.03		\| 0.03
	\| 0.00015		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.00015
	\| 3		\| 3
	\| 600		\| 600
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Holmium ore}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Holmium ore}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.01		\| 0.01
	\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| 200		\| 200
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Ice}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Ice}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.05		\| 0.05
	\| 0.001		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.001
	\| 20		\| 20
	\| 1000		\| 1000
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Iron gear wheel}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Iron gear wheel}}
	\| 100		\| 100
	\| 0.2		\| 0.2
	\| 0.002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.002
	\| 40		\| 40
	\| 4000		\| 4000
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Low density structure}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Low density structure}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.01		\| 0.01
	\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| 200		\| 200
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Processing unit}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Processing unit}}
	\| 100		\| 100
	\| 0.02		\| 0.02
	\| 0.0002		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0002
	\| 4		\| 4
	\| 200		\| 200
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Solid fuel}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Solid fuel}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.07		\| 0.07
	\| 0.0014		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0014
	\| 28		\| 28
	\| 1400		\| 1400
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Steel plate}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Steel plate}}
	\| 100		\| 100
	\| 0.04		\| 0.04
	\| 0.0004		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0004
	\| 8		\| 8
	\| 800		\| 800
	\|-		\|-
	\| {{imagelink\|Stone}}		\|style="text-align: left"\| {{imagelink\|Stone}}
	\| 50		\| 50
	\| 0.02		\| 0.02
	\| 0.0004		\|style="text-align: left"\| 0.0004
	\| 8		\| 8
	\| 400		\| 400
	\|- class="sortbottom"		\|- class="sortbottom"
	\| '''Total'''		\|style="text-align: left"\| '''Total'''
	\| —		\| —
	\| 0.6		\| 0.6
	\| —		\|style="text-align: center"\| —
	\| 146		\| 146
	\| 12000		\| 12000

Thrawcheld: /* Observations */ 12:1 water to fuel means actually there isn't enough for steam power

2025-01-28T01:35:49Z

Observations: 12:1 water to fuel means actually there isn't enough for steam power

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	* You cannot make anything that requires coal (e.g. grenades for military science) except by importing coal (or importing carbon and synthesizing coal).		* You cannot make anything that requires coal (e.g. grenades for military science) except by importing coal (or importing carbon and synthesizing coal).
	* Most green circuits come from recycling blue circuits, not red circuits.		* Most green circuits come from recycling blue circuits, not red circuits.
	* The number of units of water you can get out of scrap (without productivity) is about equal to the quantity of scrap. The amount of solid fuel you get is about 14 times less. If you wanted to use steam power for some reason, saturating one normal quality heat exchanger with a heating tower would therefore take 10.3 scrap per second, consuming 0.833.. solid fuel per second, a ratio of about 12:1. You ~~can~~ therefore get 100% efficiency out of heating towers while consuming all the solid fuel you get from scrap~~, and~~ you ~~can still do some cracking~~ and ~~make refined concrete~~.		* The number of units of water you can get out of scrap (without productivity) is about equal to the quantity of scrap. The amount of solid fuel you get is about 14 times less. If you wanted to use steam power for some reason, saturating one normal quality heat exchanger with a heating tower would therefore take 10.3 scrap per second, consuming 0.833.. solid fuel per second, a ratio of about 12:1. You therefore cannot get 100% efficiency out of heating towers while consuming all the solid fuel you get from scrap – you will consume all your ice in heat exchangers and overheat the towers.
	* Iron ore is almost useless. The only thing you can do with it is smelt it for more iron plates (and you might as well burn solid fuel to do so), but you will probably get enough of those anyway from recycling gears. There's no point exporting it since it's equally available everywhere else. You might as well void it with a pair of recyclers.		* Iron ore is almost useless. The only thing you can do with it is smelt it for more iron plates (and you might as well burn solid fuel to do so), but you will probably get enough of those anyway from recycling gears. There's no point exporting it since it's equally available everywhere else. You might as well void it with a pair of recyclers.
	* The only useful things that consume copper plates are superconductors, batteries, copper cables, and LDS. Other than superconductors, batteries seem like the most likely shortfall. Crafting more LDS would likely result in a large surplus of plastic (red circuits recycle to about equal amounts of copper and plastic, but LDS uses four times as much copper). You might also make red science on Fulgora.		* The only useful things that consume copper plates are superconductors, batteries, copper cables, and LDS. Other than superconductors, batteries seem like the most likely shortfall. Crafting more LDS would likely result in a large surplus of plastic (red circuits recycle to about equal amounts of copper and plastic, but LDS uses four times as much copper). You might also make red science on Fulgora.