Talk:Quality - Revision history

Dalestan: /* One addition needed */

2025-03-21T16:12:33Z

One addition needed

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	: Also, please sign additions to discussion pages. [[User:Alfonse\|Alfonse]] ([[User talk:Alfonse\|talk]]) 02:39, 21 March 2025 (UTC)		: Also, please sign additions to discussion pages. [[User:Alfonse\|Alfonse]] ([[User talk:Alfonse\|talk]]) 02:39, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

			:: There is (at least now) information that isn't obvious from the infoboxes. Determining that asteroid collectors consume a total of ((1+level) × (1+level/10) × 60 + (1+level/10) × 12) kW was non-trivial.
			:: But I'm not opposed to trimming it, or at least re-organizing it. [[User:Dalestan\|Dalestan]] ([[User talk:Dalestan\|talk]]) 16:12, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Alfonse: /* One addition needed */

2025-03-21T02:39:54Z

One addition needed

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	Another addition needed is for the Asteroid Gatherer on space platforms. Some research will be necessary to get the exact details, but at standard quality a Gatherer has a 15 by 15 area of capture, a single arm and 39 storage. At Legendary, the area has increased to 25 by 25, the arm count has increased to six, and the storage is 64.		Another addition needed is for the Asteroid Gatherer on space platforms. Some research will be necessary to get the exact details, but at standard quality a Gatherer has a 15 by 15 area of capture, a single arm and 39 storage. At Legendary, the area has increased to 25 by 25, the arm count has increased to six, and the storage is 64.

			: Honestly, I'm questioning why this section needs to exist to begin with. The quality bonus for every item is already listed on their own individual pages. Having a secondary, ''comprehensive'' list seems like a chore to keep in sync with. It might be good to give a general overview of how many common items improve with quality, but trying to be comprehensive doesn't seem worth it.

			: Also, please sign additions to discussion pages. [[User:Alfonse\|Alfonse]] ([[User talk:Alfonse\|talk]]) 02:39, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Dgnuff at 01:38, 21 March 2025

2025-03-21T01:38:24Z

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	Another addition needed is for the Asteroid Gatherer on space platforms. Some research will be necessary to get the exact details, but at standard quality a Gatherer has a 15 by 15 area of capture, ~~and~~ a single arm. At Legendary, the area has increased to 25 by 25, ~~and~~ the arm count has increased to six.		Another addition needed is for the Asteroid Gatherer on space platforms. Some research will be necessary to get the exact details, but at standard quality a Gatherer has a 15 by 15 area of capture, a single arm and 39 storage. At Legendary, the area has increased to 25 by 25, the arm count has increased to six, and the storage is 64.

Dgnuff: Update for Asteroid Gatherers

2025-03-20T19:25:45Z

Update for Asteroid Gatherers

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	Someone should check this before editing the page, but in the "Quality Effects" section, there should also be an entry in the +30% output rate group for Solar Panels. I've checked this in game, but a second opinion never hurts. On Nauvis, output of a base quality panel is 60 KW max. Upgrade that to a rare panel, and it increases to 96 KW, which is the same +30% output improvement per quality level.		Someone should check this before editing the page, but in the "Quality Effects" section, there should also be an entry in the +30% output rate group for Solar Panels. I've checked this in game, but a second opinion never hurts. On Nauvis, output of a base quality panel is 60 KW max. Upgrade that to a rare panel, and it increases to 96 KW, which is the same +30% output improvement per quality level.

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			Another addition needed is for the Asteroid Gatherer on space platforms. Some research will be necessary to get the exact details, but at standard quality a Gatherer has a 15 by 15 area of capture, and a single arm. At Legendary, the area has increased to 25 by 25, and the arm count has increased to six.

Dgnuff: Adding suggestion to include Solar Panels in the +30% output group

2025-02-15T16:06:36Z

Adding suggestion to include Solar Panels in the +30% output group

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	::::::::::Limiting the table to items that have medium-to-late-game use will keep it short and sweet, while still providing practical figures for reference.		::::::::::Limiting the table to items that have medium-to-late-game use will keep it short and sweet, while still providing practical figures for reference.
	::::::::::-- [[User:Raw Salad\|Raw Salad]] ([[User talk:Raw Salad\|talk]]) 19:15, 13 December 2024 (UTC)		::::::::::-- [[User:Raw Salad\|Raw Salad]] ([[User talk:Raw Salad\|talk]]) 19:15, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

			== One addition needed ==

			Someone should check this before editing the page, but in the "Quality Effects" section, there should also be an entry in the +30% output rate group for Solar Panels. I've checked this in game, but a second opinion never hurts. On Nauvis, output of a base quality panel is 60 KW max. Upgrade that to a rare panel, and it increases to 96 KW, which is the same +30% output improvement per quality level.

Cowlinator: /* Optimal module usage */

2025-01-22T19:47:05Z

Optimal module usage

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	::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth ~~does~~ 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]]?		::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth is 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]]?
	::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)		::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Cowlinator: /* Optimal module usage */

2025-01-22T19:46:35Z

Optimal module usage

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	::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth does 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]] ~~([[User talk:Cooky173\|talk]])~~?		::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth does 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]]?
	::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)		::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Cowlinator: /* Optimal module usage */

2025-01-22T19:46:05Z

Optimal module usage

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	:::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth does 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]] ([[User talk:Cooky173\|talk]])?		::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth does 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]] ([[User talk:Cooky173\|talk]])?
	:::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)		::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

	::::::With a little bit of linear algebra I have found an explicit formula for the number of batches of ingredients required per legendary product. When there is no quality module in the assemblers(/foundries/whatever), the formula is rather simple:		::::::With a little bit of linear algebra I have found an explicit formula for the number of batches of ingredients required per legendary product. When there is no quality module in the assemblers(/foundries/whatever), the formula is rather simple:

Cowlinator: /* Optimal module usage */

2025-01-22T19:45:39Z

Optimal module usage

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	:::::https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13HH2twPdDAOo0L1jNLODH1rbGHgyowZjcVNXBhBAaDA/edit?usp=sharing		:::::https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13HH2twPdDAOo0L1jNLODH1rbGHgyowZjcVNXBhBAaDA/edit?usp=sharing
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			:::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth does 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]] ([[User talk:Cooky173\|talk]])?
			:::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

	::::::With a little bit of linear algebra I have found an explicit formula for the number of batches of ingredients required per legendary product. When there is no quality module in the assemblers(/foundries/whatever), the formula is rather simple:		::::::With a little bit of linear algebra I have found an explicit formula for the number of batches of ingredients required per legendary product. When there is no quality module in the assemblers(/foundries/whatever), the formula is rather simple:

Raw Salad: /* Consider adding table of items and effects of each quality level? */

2024-12-13T19:15:26Z

Consider adding table of items and effects of each quality level?

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	:::::::::That was it, thanks. Fixed now.		:::::::::That was it, thanks. Fixed now.
	:::::::::-- [[User:MadKingAyres\|MadKingAyres]] ([[User talk:MadKingAyres\|talk]]) 15:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)		:::::::::-- [[User:MadKingAyres\|MadKingAyres]] ([[User talk:MadKingAyres\|talk]]) 15:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

			::::::::::What do you think of limiting the table to only items players would realistically be looking for in higher qualities?
			::::::::::I don't see much point in dedicating space to items like Assembly Machine 1 and 2, nor for wooden chest, they're completely superseded by the higher production chain items.
			::::::::::Limiting the table to items that have medium-to-late-game use will keep it short and sweet, while still providing practical figures for reference.
			::::::::::-- [[User:Raw Salad\|Raw Salad]] ([[User talk:Raw Salad\|talk]]) 19:15, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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	::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth ~~does~~ 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]]?		::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth is 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]]?
	::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)		::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

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	::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth does 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]] ~~([[User talk:Cooky173\|talk]])~~?		::::::The data in this spreadsheet is now what is on this wiki page for the table of quality modules. However, I can't make any sense of it. What on earth does 1% for '''''normal''''' quality supposed to mean? Normal is the default. Adding quality modules should only '''''decrease''''' the % of normal quality items. Can someone explain this? @[[User:Cooky173\|Cooky173]]?
	::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)		::::::-- [[User:Cowlinator\|Cowlinator]] ([[User talk:Cowlinator\|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)