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GregFirehawk: /* Fire Resistance */

2025-05-10T21:21:42Z

Fire Resistance

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	The wiki page for the [[Flamethrower turret]] says enemies have a fire resistance value of 3, so I'm wondering why this isn't included anywhere on this page alongside the other resistances?		The wiki page for the [[Flamethrower turret]] says enemies have a fire resistance value of 3, so I'm wondering why this isn't included anywhere on this page alongside the other resistances?

			--[[User:GregFirehawk\|GregFirehawk]] ([[User talk:GregFirehawk\|talk]]) 21:21, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

GregFirehawk: /* Fire Resistance */ new section

2025-05-10T21:21:24Z

Fire Resistance: new section

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	: Also for demolisher ground explosion? [[User:Iridium235\|Iridium235]] ([[User talk:Iridium235\|talk]]) 6:53, 21 January 2025 (UTC)		: Also for demolisher ground explosion? [[User:Iridium235\|Iridium235]] ([[User talk:Iridium235\|talk]]) 6:53, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Fire Resistance ==

			The wiki page for the [[Flamethrower turret]] says enemies have a fire resistance value of 3, so I'm wondering why this isn't included anywhere on this page alongside the other resistances?

Iridium235: /* Stomper damage */ Also for demolisher ground explosion?

2025-01-21T06:52:48Z

Stomper damage: Also for demolisher ground explosion?

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	I think it will be nice to have stomper impact damage on the page, as it doesn't show it in-game. [[User:Iridium235\|Iridium235]] ([[User talk:Iridium235\|talk]]) 23:41, 18 January 2025 (UTC)		I think it will be nice to have stomper impact damage on the page, as it doesn't show it in-game. [[User:Iridium235\|Iridium235]] ([[User talk:Iridium235\|talk]]) 23:41, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

			: Also for demolisher ground explosion? [[User:Iridium235\|Iridium235]] ([[User talk:Iridium235\|talk]]) 6:53, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Iridium235: I think it will be nice to have stomper impact damage on the page, as it doesn't show it in-game. Iridium235 (talk) 23:41, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

2025-01-17T23:41:50Z

I think it will be nice to have stomper impact damage on the page, as it doesn't show it in-game. Iridium235 (talk) 23:41, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

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	:: Fair point about the non-expansion owners - we don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable or left out by just assuming that everyone has the expansion. So, should this page be moved to Enemies (Nauvis), or should we make Enemies (Nauvis) a redirect to this page? Or should we just not have it at all? Also, if something applies to enemies on all planets, where should it go? Do we just keep it here and make this an "enemies not strictly found on a planet that isn't Nauvis"-page? - [[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 08:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)		:: Fair point about the non-expansion owners - we don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable or left out by just assuming that everyone has the expansion. So, should this page be moved to Enemies (Nauvis), or should we make Enemies (Nauvis) a redirect to this page? Or should we just not have it at all? Also, if something applies to enemies on all planets, where should it go? Do we just keep it here and make this an "enemies not strictly found on a planet that isn't Nauvis"-page? - [[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 08:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

			== Stomper damage ==

			I think it will be nice to have stomper impact damage on the page, as it doesn't show it in-game. [[User:Iridium235\|Iridium235]] ([[User talk:Iridium235\|talk]]) 23:41, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Tecanec: /* Update to 2.0 */

2024-10-21T08:50:02Z

Update to 2.0

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	-[[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 06:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)		-[[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 06:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
	: Since the Space Age expansion is paid, not everyone will play with the different planets. So I'm a bit hesitant to remove the nauvis enemies from the general overview. But I agree that the different planet enemies should have their own pages. I'm wondering what mechanics will be similar between the different enemy types that would stay on the general overview. For example, demolishers don't have evolution and pollution and the defense section from this page also doesn't apply. Maybe we could have this page state something like "this is about nauvis enemies, for other planets see enemies (gleba) and enemies (vulcanus)" and separate it that way? Also, the expansion comes out in a few hours, it's not quite released yet ;) -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 08:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)		: Since the Space Age expansion is paid, not everyone will play with the different planets. So I'm a bit hesitant to remove the nauvis enemies from the general overview. But I agree that the different planet enemies should have their own pages. I'm wondering what mechanics will be similar between the different enemy types that would stay on the general overview. For example, demolishers don't have evolution and pollution and the defense section from this page also doesn't apply. Maybe we could have this page state something like "this is about nauvis enemies, for other planets see enemies (gleba) and enemies (vulcanus)" and separate it that way? Also, the expansion comes out in a few hours, it's not quite released yet ;) -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 08:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

			:: Fair point about the non-expansion owners - we don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable or left out by just assuming that everyone has the expansion. So, should this page be moved to Enemies (Nauvis), or should we make Enemies (Nauvis) a redirect to this page? Or should we just not have it at all? Also, if something applies to enemies on all planets, where should it go? Do we just keep it here and make this an "enemies not strictly found on a planet that isn't Nauvis"-page? - [[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 08:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Bilka: /* Update to 2.0 */ Reply

2024-10-21T08:15:03Z

Update to 2.0: Reply

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	-[[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 06:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)		-[[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 06:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
			: Since the Space Age expansion is paid, not everyone will play with the different planets. So I'm a bit hesitant to remove the nauvis enemies from the general overview. But I agree that the different planet enemies should have their own pages. I'm wondering what mechanics will be similar between the different enemy types that would stay on the general overview. For example, demolishers don't have evolution and pollution and the defense section from this page also doesn't apply. Maybe we could have this page state something like "this is about nauvis enemies, for other planets see enemies (gleba) and enemies (vulcanus)" and separate it that way? Also, the expansion comes out in a few hours, it's not quite released yet ;) -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 08:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Tecanec: /* Update to 2.0 */ new section

2024-10-21T06:39:10Z

Update to 2.0: new section

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	Adding context here because the numbers were added without further context: Pollution equivalent for the different sources is <code>source_evo_increase ÷ pollution_evo_increase</code>. So it is dependent on the map settings. For the table with evo factor and pollution equivalent it's based on the pollution only evolution factor explained in the advanced section, see also the chart there. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 11:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)		Adding context here because the numbers were added without further context: Pollution equivalent for the different sources is <code>source_evo_increase ÷ pollution_evo_increase</code>. So it is dependent on the map settings. For the table with evo factor and pollution equivalent it's based on the pollution only evolution factor explained in the advanced section, see also the chart there. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 11:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

			== Update to 2.0 ==

			So, Space Age should be out by now (haven't had the chance to play yet). Judging by the FFFs, that means most of this page is now Nauvis-exclusive.

			This page is long enough as is, so I propose moving this page's Nauvis-exclusive content to a new page (such as [[Enemies (Nauvis)]]), creating new pages for Gleba and Vulkanus (such as [[Enemies (Gleba)]] and either [[Enemies (Vulkanus)]] or [[Demolisher]]), and keeping this page with information applicable to all planets with enemies along with links to the new pages documenting each planet's own hostile biosphere.

			This is a major change, and we're still early in the 2.0 update phase (and I'm a new editor on this wiki), so I'd rather play it safe than do this without any input. So: Any thoughts?

			-[[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 06:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Bilka: /* Evolution pollution equivalent */ new section

2024-03-01T11:19:48Z

Evolution pollution equivalent: new section

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	The box uses the pre 0.13 formula for the evolution factor, that doesn't use the squared factor. It contradicts the description above and it can't be used in the current version. Imo it can be deleted. --[[User:Unique 2\|Unique 2]] ([[User talk:Unique 2\|talk]]) 23:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)		The box uses the pre 0.13 formula for the evolution factor, that doesn't use the squared factor. It contradicts the description above and it can't be used in the current version. Imo it can be deleted. --[[User:Unique 2\|Unique 2]] ([[User talk:Unique 2\|talk]]) 23:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
	: Thank you for pointing this out and thank you to [[User:Vornicus]] for updating the relevant text and removing the rest! -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 14:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)		: Thank you for pointing this out and thank you to [[User:Vornicus]] for updating the relevant text and removing the rest! -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 14:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

			== Evolution pollution equivalent ==

			Adding context here because the numbers were added without further context: Pollution equivalent for the different sources is <code>source_evo_increase ÷ pollution_evo_increase</code>. So it is dependent on the map settings. For the table with evo factor and pollution equivalent it's based on the pollution only evolution factor explained in the advanced section, see also the chart there. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 11:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Bilka: /* The "Advanced: Evolution factor components and computation" box is outdated */ Page is fixed thanks to Vornicus

2022-10-07T14:29:48Z

The "Advanced: Evolution factor components and computation" box is outdated: Page is fixed thanks to Vornicus

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	The box uses the pre 0.13 formula for the evolution factor, that doesn't use the squared factor. It contradicts the description above and it can't be used in the current version. Imo it can be deleted. --[[User:Unique 2\|Unique 2]] ([[User talk:Unique 2\|talk]]) 23:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)		The box uses the pre 0.13 formula for the evolution factor, that doesn't use the squared factor. It contradicts the description above and it can't be used in the current version. Imo it can be deleted. --[[User:Unique 2\|Unique 2]] ([[User talk:Unique 2\|talk]]) 23:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
			: Thank you for pointing this out and thank you to [[User:Vornicus]] for updating the relevant text and removing the rest! -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 14:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Unique 2: /* The "Advanced: Evolution factor components and computation" box is outdated */ new section

2022-08-09T23:09:13Z

The "Advanced: Evolution factor components and computation" box is outdated: new section

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	:I'll add them into the table now. [[User:Swordstone\|Swordstone]] ([[User talk:Swordstone\|talk]]) 18:28, 22 September 2017 (UTC)		:I'll add them into the table now. [[User:Swordstone\|Swordstone]] ([[User talk:Swordstone\|talk]]) 18:28, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

			== The "Advanced: Evolution factor components and computation" box is outdated ==

			The box uses the pre 0.13 formula for the evolution factor, that doesn't use the squared factor. It contradicts the description above and it can't be used in the current version. Imo it can be deleted. --[[User:Unique 2\|Unique 2]] ([[User talk:Unique 2\|talk]]) 23:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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	: Since the Space Age expansion is paid, not everyone will play with the different planets. So I'm a bit hesitant to remove the nauvis enemies from the general overview. But I agree that the different planet enemies should have their own pages. I'm wondering what mechanics will be similar between the different enemy types that would stay on the general overview. For example, demolishers don't have evolution and pollution and the defense section from this page also doesn't apply. Maybe we could have this page state something like "this is about nauvis enemies, for other planets see enemies (gleba) and enemies (vulcanus)" and separate it that way? Also, the expansion comes out in a few hours, it's not quite released yet ;) -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 08:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)		: Since the Space Age expansion is paid, not everyone will play with the different planets. So I'm a bit hesitant to remove the nauvis enemies from the general overview. But I agree that the different planet enemies should have their own pages. I'm wondering what mechanics will be similar between the different enemy types that would stay on the general overview. For example, demolishers don't have evolution and pollution and the defense section from this page also doesn't apply. Maybe we could have this page state something like "this is about nauvis enemies, for other planets see enemies (gleba) and enemies (vulcanus)" and separate it that way? Also, the expansion comes out in a few hours, it's not quite released yet ;) -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 08:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

			:: Fair point about the non-expansion owners - we don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable or left out by just assuming that everyone has the expansion. So, should this page be moved to Enemies (Nauvis), or should we make Enemies (Nauvis) a redirect to this page? Or should we just not have it at all? Also, if something applies to enemies on all planets, where should it go? Do we just keep it here and make this an "enemies not strictly found on a planet that isn't Nauvis"-page? - [[User:Tecanec\|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec\|talk]]) 08:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)