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Bilka: /* Damage types */ reply

2024-02-22T17:46:29Z

Damage types: reply

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	: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)		: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
	::Hi, sorry for the unclear question. I wanted to clarify whether there is a difference between Physical '''and''' Impact; and between Laser '''and''' Electric types of damage --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 17:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)		::Hi, sorry for the unclear question. I wanted to clarify whether there is a difference between Physical '''and''' Impact; and between Laser '''and''' Electric types of damage --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 17:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
			:::Every damage type is separate with separate resistances. You can see that for example on entities like [[Wall]], the infobox lists different resistances for a lot of different damage types. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 17:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Factorles: /* Damage types */

2024-02-22T17:17:42Z

Damage types

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	Hi, is there really a difference between Physical/Impact and Laser/Electric types of damage? Or those are the same? --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 13:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)		Hi, is there really a difference between Physical/Impact and Laser/Electric types of damage? Or those are the same? --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 13:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
	: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)		: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
			::Hi, sorry for the unclear question. I wanted to clarify whether there is a difference between Physical '''and''' Impact; and between Laser '''and''' Electric types of damage --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 17:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Bilka: /* Damage types */ Reply

2024-02-22T16:46:52Z

Damage types: Reply

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	Hi, is there really a difference between Physical/Impact and Laser/Electric types of damage? Or those are the same? --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 13:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)		Hi, is there really a difference between Physical/Impact and Laser/Electric types of damage? Or those are the same? --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 13:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
			: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Factorles: /* Damage types */ new section

2024-01-10T13:20:58Z

Damage types: new section

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	: The correct formula is currently on the page. It's taken directly from the game's files. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 08:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC)		: The correct formula is currently on the page. It's taken directly from the game's files. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 08:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

			== Damage types ==

			Hi, is there really a difference between Physical/Impact and Laser/Electric types of damage? Or those are the same? --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 13:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Bilka: current page is correct

2019-03-27T08:40:09Z

current page is correct

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	[[User:Dux\|Dux]] ([[User talk:Dux\|talk]]) 20:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)		[[User:Dux\|Dux]] ([[User talk:Dux\|talk]]) 20:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

			: The correct formula is currently on the page. It's taken directly from the game's files. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 08:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Dux at 20:19, 26 March 2019

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	I will edit the article to reflect this.		I will edit the article to reflect this.
	[[User:Frightning\|Frightning]] ([[User talk:Frightning\|talk]]) 07:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)		[[User:Frightning\|Frightning]] ([[User talk:Frightning\|talk]]) 07:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)



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			"Decrease resistance decreases the damage by specified number as long as the resulting damage wouldn't be less than 1."
			So it should be "if R+1<=D" not "if R+1<D"?

			"otherwise if D>1 " this is never true, since the normal ammo is already 5 + bonus.

			"F = (1 - P) / (R+1) " The results of the calculation tests I've done do not feel right.

			I think that the first poster is onto something. I combined his update with the wiki part to the complete (probably correct) fuction:

			Func CalculateHPDamage($WeaponDamage, $FlatResistance, $PercentResistance)

			Local $DmgDiff = $WeaponDamage - $FlatResistance

			If $DmgDiff < 1 Then

			Local $HPLost = (1 - $PercentResistance) / (2 - $DmgDiff)

			Else

			Local $HPLost = (1 - $PercentResistance) * $DmgDiff

			EndIf

			Return $HPLost

			EndFunc ;==>CalculateHPDamage


			Shouldn't the correct formula be somewhere in the lua files?

			[[User:Dux\|Dux]] ([[User talk:Dux\|talk]]) 20:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Frightning at 07:01, 9 January 2018

2018-01-09T07:01:16Z

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	Don't really know how to correctly write it in wiki, so post it in discussion for now.		Don't really know how to correctly write it in wiki, so post it in discussion for now.


			== Regarding the above ==
			I have confirmed that the above statement about percentage resistance being applied after flat is correct.

			I am also quite sure that the above is also correct about the change of formula for accounting for high flat resistance against low damage happens when reduced damage (after only applying flat resistance, would be less than or equal to 1, as both formulas agree at only that value, hence the only way to preserve more raw damage=more actual damage and not have a jump discontinuity would be to make the transition there).

			I will edit the article to reflect this.
			[[User:Frightning\|Frightning]] ([[User talk:Frightning\|talk]]) 07:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Merssedes: Damage and flat resistance

2017-07-11T16:00:54Z

Damage and flat resistance

New page

After some testing in version 0.15.28 found out two things:

1) percentile resistance is applied second (i've edited the page about it);

2) flat resistance works little different than it's wrote in wiki:

[code]

let D = damage - flat resistance

if D < 1 then let D = 1 / (2 - D)

D is resulting damage

[/code]

This differs from what written in wiki in case of (damage - flat resistance) in range from 0 to 1 exclusive.

Don't really know how to correctly write it in wiki, so post it in discussion for now.

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	: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)		: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
	::Hi, sorry for the unclear question. I wanted to clarify whether there is a difference between Physical '''and''' Impact; and between Laser '''and''' Electric types of damage --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 17:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)		::Hi, sorry for the unclear question. I wanted to clarify whether there is a difference between Physical '''and''' Impact; and between Laser '''and''' Electric types of damage --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 17:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
			:::Every damage type is separate with separate resistances. You can see that for example on entities like [[Wall]], the infobox lists different resistances for a lot of different damage types. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 17:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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	Hi, is there really a difference between Physical/Impact and Laser/Electric types of damage? Or those are the same? --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 13:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)		Hi, is there really a difference between Physical/Impact and Laser/Electric types of damage? Or those are the same? --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 13:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
	: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)		: Hey, yes there is a difference. For example some entities have different resistances to these damage types. One example of that is the behemoth biter, it has resistance to physical damage but not impact damage, so it makes a difference whether you shoot it with a pistol or ram it with a tank. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
			::Hi, sorry for the unclear question. I wanted to clarify whether there is a difference between Physical '''and''' Impact; and between Laser '''and''' Electric types of damage --[[User:Factorles\|Factorles]] ([[User talk:Factorles\|talk]]) 17:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)