https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ABeacon 2026-09-28T20:37:49Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.9 https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Talk:Beacon&diff=219690&oldid=prev 2026-08-15T02:31:35Z

<p><span class="autocomment">About that cleanup notice</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:31, 15 August 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Sorry about that, I seem to have added it by accident due to some caching issues I&#039;m adding. It seems pretty good. The only thing I&#039;d feel like we could add is the Factoriopedia&#039;s graph about diminishing returns, but the rewrite is already more than enough. [[User:Brin|Brin]] ([[User talk:Brin|talk]]) 00:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Sorry about that, I seem to have added it by accident due to some caching issues I&#039;m adding. It seems pretty good. The only thing I&#039;d feel like we could add is the Factoriopedia&#039;s graph about diminishing returns, but the rewrite is already more than enough. [[User:Brin|Brin]] ([[User talk:Brin|talk]]) 00:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== The entire section about Beacon Arrays is outdated ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">This section still implicitly assumes the pre 2.0 numbers for how beacons work. Post the 2.0 update, due to the transmission power being tripled, and effect multiple Beacons diminishing by square root of number of beacons affecting the machine, the best layouts (in terms of amortization times of the cost of the expensive modules needed for the layout) are those that maximize machines per beacon, since the 2nd Beacon affecting a machine is worth barely over 40% of what the first one was (this effect is even more skewed when you consider how prod module speed modifiers impact the math). Ironically, the original derivation is close to being right, if you swap machines and beacons, the best layout is a 12 machines per beacon for 3x3 machines and you can make this tileable with some care for input and output handling. [[User:Frightning|Frightning]] ([[User talk:Frightning|talk]]) 02:31, 15 August 2026 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key mediawiki-wiki:diff:1.41:old-205062:rev-219690:php=table --> </table>

Frightning https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Talk:Beacon&diff=205062&oldid=prev 2024-11-06T00:57:07Z

<p><span class="autocomment">About that cleanup notice</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:57, 6 November 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== About that cleanup notice ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== About that cleanup notice ==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, someone added a cleanup notice about how the page needs to be rewritten due to the 2.0 rework of beacons. I&#039;m a bit confused by this, since it was added almost six hours after I did just that. If there&#039;s something I missed, then I would like to know. - [[User:Tecanec|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec|talk]]) 08:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, someone added a cleanup notice about how the page needs to be rewritten due to the 2.0 rework of beacons. I&#039;m a bit confused by this, since it was added almost six hours after I did just that. If there&#039;s something I missed, then I would like to know. - [[User:Tecanec|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec|talk]]) 08:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Sorry about that, I seem to have added it by accident due to some caching issues I'm adding. It seems pretty good. The only thing I'd feel like we could add is the Factoriopedia's graph about diminishing returns, but the rewrite is already more than enough. [[User:Brin|Brin]] ([[User talk:Brin|talk]]) 00:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Brin https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Talk:Beacon&diff=204800&oldid=prev 2024-11-04T08:23:52Z

<p>Created page with &quot;== About that cleanup notice == So, someone added a cleanup notice about how the page needs to be rewritten due to the 2.0 rework of beacons. I&#039;m a bit confused by this, since it was added almost six hours after I did just that. If there&#039;s something I missed, then I would like to know. - ~~~~&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>== About that cleanup notice ==<br /> So, someone added a cleanup notice about how the page needs to be rewritten due to the 2.0 rework of beacons. I&#039;m a bit confused by this, since it was added almost six hours after I did just that. If there&#039;s something I missed, then I would like to know. - [[User:Tecanec|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec|talk]]) 08:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</div>

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