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Bilka: Prevented redlink for page that I'm about to delete

2024-10-25T12:48:04Z

Prevented redlink for page that I'm about to delete

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	--[[User:M.C.S.\|M.C.S.]] ([[User talk:M.C.S.\|talk]]) 11:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)		--[[User:M.C.S.\|M.C.S.]] ([[User talk:M.C.S.\|talk]]) 11:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
	: Both the fuel buffer example and the 120° arc should be completely included in the translation template. Your concern about the 120° not changing is accurate, however some languages may want to translate the ° sign (the game allows to do this, so we do too), and as you say, word order is also a concern.		: Both the fuel buffer example and the 120° arc should be completely included in the translation template. Your concern about the 120° not changing is accurate, however some languages may want to translate the ° sign (the game allows to do this, so we do too), and as you say, word order is also a concern.
	: The extra2 field is automatically included in the translation template, see [[Template:Infobox/extra]], so you can just translate the whole text at once and dont need to modify the infobox for that.		: The extra2 field is automatically included in the translation template, see Template:Infobox/extra, so you can just translate the whole text at once and dont need to modify the infobox for that.
	: One thing to keep in mind if you plan to go through infoboxes to add <code><nowiki>{{Translation\|}}</nowiki></code> is that some languages like to translate units, like [{{fullurl:Infobox:Transport_belt\|diff=167498&oldid=166076}} Items/s], so if you find those missing the translation template in infoboxes that you are looking at, you are encouraged to add them.		: One thing to keep in mind if you plan to go through infoboxes to add <code><nowiki>{{Translation\|}}</nowiki></code> is that some languages like to translate units, like [{{fullurl:Infobox:Transport_belt\|diff=167498&oldid=166076}} Items/s], so if you find those missing the translation template in infoboxes that you are looking at, you are encouraged to add them.
	: Thank you for putting so much thought into the translations, your changes so far have been really good. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 12:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)		: Thank you for putting so much thought into the translations, your changes so far have been really good. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 12:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

SyntaxTerror: /* Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文) */ +

2023-10-19T19:40:36Z

Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文): +

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	:Note that on Wikipedia, both scripts are available on https://zh.wikipedia.org, using a server-side conversion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters] (I doubt it would be available on this wiki, as it is not part of the WikiMedia projects). Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 06:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)		:Note that on Wikipedia, both scripts are available on https://zh.wikipedia.org, using a server-side conversion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters] (I doubt it would be available on this wiki, as it is not part of the WikiMedia projects). Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 06:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
	:: Hey, the language code used on this wiki is the same language code that is used in-game. The flag is based on the flag used by Crowdin, the translation platform used for the in-game translations. This is done because the translation should be based on the in-game translation. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)		:: Hey, the language code used on this wiki is the same language code that is used in-game. The flag is based on the flag used by Crowdin, the translation platform used for the in-game translations. This is done because the translation should be based on the in-game translation. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
			:::Hello [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]]. The language code in Factorio wikis and the way Wikipedia in Chinese works are different issues, I was just mentionning the latter for information, and spoke about IETF codes because I've been working a lot with them on Wikipédia, sorry for the "nerdview" !
			:::By the way, "Conversion is done through a set of character conversion tables, that may be edited by administrators". Such tables could be using the game code to ensure that the words used are the same as in-game. However, on further looking into this, I learnt that this system can cause problems due to typographical errors. This may be one of the reasons why wp.zh has been supplanted by private "mainland China" wikis. Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 19:40, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Bilka: /* Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文) */ Reply

2023-10-19T16:43:22Z

Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文): Reply

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	:Hi. I'd just like to clarify something: the IETF language code for traditional Chinese is zh-Hans, whereas zh-TW is Chinese spoken in Taiwan (TW is a region subtag, whereas Hans is a script subtag). As mentioned above, traditional Chinese is not only used in Taiwan, so using this code can be misleading.		:Hi. I'd just like to clarify something: the IETF language code for traditional Chinese is zh-Hans, whereas zh-TW is Chinese spoken in Taiwan (TW is a region subtag, whereas Hans is a script subtag). As mentioned above, traditional Chinese is not only used in Taiwan, so using this code can be misleading.
	:Note that on Wikipedia, both scripts are available on https://zh.wikipedia.org, using a server-side conversion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters] (I doubt it would be available on this wiki, as it is not part of the WikiMedia projects). Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 06:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)		:Note that on Wikipedia, both scripts are available on https://zh.wikipedia.org, using a server-side conversion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters] (I doubt it would be available on this wiki, as it is not part of the WikiMedia projects). Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 06:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
			:: Hey, the language code used on this wiki is the same language code that is used in-game. The flag is based on the flag used by Crowdin, the translation platform used for the in-game translations. This is done because the translation should be based on the in-game translation. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

SyntaxTerror: /* Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文) */ language code

2023-10-11T06:12:18Z

Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文): language code

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	:: Thank you very much for your reply! I'll make sure to manually translate each of the pages instead of relying on automated translation. I can only help with translation during my off time, so it might take a while for me to fully go through the whole wiki. --[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 10:15, 15 March 2023 (UTC)		:: Thank you very much for your reply! I'll make sure to manually translate each of the pages instead of relying on automated translation. I can only help with translation during my off time, so it might take a while for me to fully go through the whole wiki. --[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 10:15, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
			:Hi. I'd just like to clarify something: the IETF language code for traditional Chinese is zh-Hans, whereas zh-TW is Chinese spoken in Taiwan (TW is a region subtag, whereas Hans is a script subtag). As mentioned above, traditional Chinese is not only used in Taiwan, so using this code can be misleading.
			:Note that on Wikipedia, both scripts are available on https://zh.wikipedia.org, using a server-side conversion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters] (I doubt it would be available on this wiki, as it is not part of the WikiMedia projects). Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 06:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Johnruby: /* Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文) */

2023-03-15T10:15:40Z

Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文)

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	:Thank you for the interest in translating pages into Traditional Chinese, it's great to see. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)		:Thank you for the interest in translating pages into Traditional Chinese, it's great to see. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

			:: Thank you very much for your reply! I'll make sure to manually translate each of the pages instead of relying on automated translation. I can only help with translation during my off time, so it might take a while for me to fully go through the whole wiki. --[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 10:15, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Bilka: /* Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文) */ Added Traditional Chinese language support

2023-03-07T16:51:55Z

Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文): Added Traditional Chinese language support

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	--[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 17:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)		--[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 17:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

			:Hey! The only requirement for adding a language is that Factorio supports that language, which is the case with Traditional Chinese. So I have added it, see [[Main Page/zh-tw]].

			:I would request that you do not use machine translation to translate pages and instead do it by hand. Usually the quality of machine translation is not very good. Additionally, the wiki should use the same translation for things like items names as the game.

			:Thank you for the interest in translating pages into Traditional Chinese, it's great to see. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Johnruby: /* Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文) */

2023-03-03T17:54:08Z

Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文)

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	Is it possible to add Traditioanl Chinese to the wiki? The initial translation could be done pretty easily since Simplified Chinese can be automatically coverted to Tradtional Chinese by various software/plugin. The difference between Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese mostly lies in expressions and terms. While they have much in common, I'd say the difference is much more significant than, for example, the difference between UK English and US English. Many platforms (such as [https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/localization/languages Steam]) also treat them as different languages.		Is it possible to add Traditioanl Chinese to the wiki? The initial translation could be done pretty easily since Simplified Chinese can be automatically coverted to Tradtional Chinese by various software/plugin. The difference between Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese mostly lies in expressions and terms. While they have much in common, I'd say the difference is much more significant than, for example, the difference between UK English and US English. Many platforms (such as [https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/localization/languages Steam]) also treat them as different languages.


	If there's any criteria to add new language for Factorio wiki, feel free to let me know. Thank you for your good work!		If there's any criteria to add new language for Factorio wiki, feel free to let me know. Thank you for your good work!

	--[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 17:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)		--[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 17:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Johnruby: /* Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文) */

2023-03-03T17:53:54Z

Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文)

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	Hello guys. Currently there's only Simplified Chinese (zh-CN, 简体中文) translation for the wiki. Simplified Chinese is mostly used in China, Singapore, Malaysia, while '''Tradtional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文)''' is mostly used in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea and Japan.		Hello guys. Currently there's only Simplified Chinese (zh-CN, 简体中文) translation for the wiki. Simplified Chinese is mostly used in China, Singapore, Malaysia, while '''Tradtional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文)''' is mostly used in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea and Japan.

	Is it possible to add Traditioanl Chinese to the wiki? The initial translation could be done pretty easily since Simplified Chinese can be automatically coverted to Tradtional Chinese by various software/plugin. The difference between Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese mostly lies in expressions and terms. While they have much in common, I'd say the difference is much more significant than, for example, the difference between UK English and US English.		Is it possible to add Traditioanl Chinese to the wiki? The initial translation could be done pretty easily since Simplified Chinese can be automatically coverted to Tradtional Chinese by various software/plugin. The difference between Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese mostly lies in expressions and terms. While they have much in common, I'd say the difference is much more significant than, for example, the difference between UK English and US English. Many platforms (such as [https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/localization/languages Steam]) also treat them as different languages.


	If there's any criteria to add new language for Factorio wiki, feel free to let me know. Thank you for your good work!		If there's any criteria to add new language for Factorio wiki, feel free to let me know. Thank you for your good work!

	--[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 17:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)		--[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 17:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Johnruby: /* Request to add new language (Traditional Chinese) */

2023-03-03T17:53:32Z

Request to add new language (Traditional Chinese)

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	::Looks good. Not intrusive any more. Still feels a bit like text pasted together, but so are templates. [[User:Tertius3\|Tertius3]] ([[User talk:Tertius3\|talk]]) 11:23, 10 May 2021 (UTC)		::Looks good. Not intrusive any more. Still feels a bit like text pasted together, but so are templates. [[User:Tertius3\|Tertius3]] ([[User talk:Tertius3\|talk]]) 11:23, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

	== Request to add new language (Traditional Chinese) ==		== Request to add new language: Traditional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文) ==

	Hello guys. Currently there's only Simplified Chinese (简体中文) translation for the wiki. Simplified Chinese is mostly used in China, Singapore, Malaysia, while '''Tradtional Chinese (繁體中文)''' is mostly used in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea and Japan.		Hello guys. Currently there's only Simplified Chinese (zh-CN, 简体中文) translation for the wiki. Simplified Chinese is mostly used in China, Singapore, Malaysia, while '''Tradtional Chinese (zh-TW, 繁體中文)''' is mostly used in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea and Japan.

	Is it possible to add Traditioanl Chinese to the wiki? The initial translation could be done pretty easily since Simplified Chinese can be automatically coverted to Tradtional Chinese by various software/plugin. The difference between Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese mostly lies in expressions and terms. While they have much in common, I'd say the difference is much more significant than, for example, the difference between UK English and US English.		Is it possible to add Traditioanl Chinese to the wiki? The initial translation could be done pretty easily since Simplified Chinese can be automatically coverted to Tradtional Chinese by various software/plugin. The difference between Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese mostly lies in expressions and terms. While they have much in common, I'd say the difference is much more significant than, for example, the difference between UK English and US English.

Johnruby: /* Request to add new language (Traditional Chinese) */

2023-03-03T17:41:40Z

Request to add new language (Traditional Chinese)

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	If there's any criteria to add new language for Factorio wiki, feel free to let me know. Thank you for your good work!		If there's any criteria to add new language for Factorio wiki, feel free to let me know. Thank you for your good work!

			--[[User:Johnruby\|Johnruby]] ([[User talk:Johnruby\|talk]]) 17:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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	:Note that on Wikipedia, both scripts are available on https://zh.wikipedia.org, using a server-side conversion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters] (I doubt it would be available on this wiki, as it is not part of the WikiMedia projects). Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 06:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)		:Note that on Wikipedia, both scripts are available on https://zh.wikipedia.org, using a server-side conversion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia#Automatic_conversion_between_traditional_and_simplified_Chinese_characters] (I doubt it would be available on this wiki, as it is not part of the WikiMedia projects). Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 06:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
	:: Hey, the language code used on this wiki is the same language code that is used in-game. The flag is based on the flag used by Crowdin, the translation platform used for the in-game translations. This is done because the translation should be based on the in-game translation. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)		:: Hey, the language code used on this wiki is the same language code that is used in-game. The flag is based on the flag used by Crowdin, the translation platform used for the in-game translations. This is done because the translation should be based on the in-game translation. -- [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka\|talk]]) - <span style="color:#FF0000">Admin</span> 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
			:::Hello [[User:Bilka\|Bilka]]. The language code in Factorio wikis and the way Wikipedia in Chinese works are different issues, I was just mentionning the latter for information, and spoke about IETF codes because I've been working a lot with them on Wikipédia, sorry for the "nerdview" !
			:::By the way, "Conversion is done through a set of character conversion tables, that may be edited by administrators". Such tables could be using the game code to ensure that the words used are the same as in-game. However, on further looking into this, I learnt that this system can cause problems due to typographical errors. This may be one of the reasons why wp.zh has been supplanted by private "mainland China" wikis. Regards, <span class="nowrap">[[User:SyntaxTerror\|Şÿℵדαχ]][[User talk:SyntaxTerror\|₮ɘɼɾ๏ʁ]]</span> 19:40, 19 October 2023 (UTC)