https://wiki.factorio.com/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Gammro 2026-06-03T15:51:37Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.43.5 https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Talk:Energy_and_work&diff=117626 2015-01-29T12:08:43Z

<p>Gammro: </p> <hr /> <div>I have a problem with what this teaches. The way I learnt it is this<br /> <br /> Work: Applied force x movement in Joule. It's the transferred amount of energy, not stored energy.<br /> Ex: We lift an object of 10kg to 10m high, 1000J of work is done to do this.<br /> <br /> Energy: The ability to do work - Not the flow of work. Rather it should be the other way around: Work is the displacement of energy.<br /> Ex: To be able to lift the object that high, we need to have at least 1000 J of energy somewhere in our system to be able to do it. If we don't have the energy in the system, we can't do it. If we do, we transfer this energy into the object.<br /> <br /> Power: The rate at which work is done and equals the rate at which energy is transferred.<br /> Ex: You need to use 1000kJ, which you do in 10 seconds, meaning you use an average of 100W to lift the object to 10m high.<br /> <br /> (all examples are at 100% efficiency of course)--[[User:Gammro|Gammro]] ([[User talk:Gammro|talk]]) 13:08, 29 January 2015 (CET)<br /> <br /> : I would say yes, if it would be real physics, but your definition would mean, that belts needs also energy.<br /> : I see the problem. Let's think about a way to express that we're talking about game physics.<br /> : that includes also the examples, which are not useful for this, cause currently nothing in Factorio has a weight in the sense of this definition.<br /> : [[User:Ssilk|Ssilk]] ([[User talk:Ssilk|talk]]) 12:47, 29 January 2015 (CET)<br /> <br /> :: IMO, we should stick to definitions that are as close to real-life as possible. Not only to have people who are familiar with real-life physics understand what is meant, but also to not teach people game-physics as if they were real. The concepts of these 3 words are pretty well defined and documented(just look at the wikipedia pages), so it shouldn't be very difficult to adapt them for Factorio.<br /> ::Yes, according to the game, belts do work without requiring energy. That's a choice of the devs to make the (early) game less of a hassle. And my examples were to demonstrate the concepts in real-life examples. I'd need a bit of time to define a few examples for Factorio.<br /> ::--[[User:Gammro|Gammro]] ([[User talk:Gammro|talk]]) 13:08, 29 January 2015 (CET)</div>

Gammro https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Talk:Energy_and_work&diff=117624 2015-01-29T08:37:52Z

<p>Gammro: </p> <hr /> <div>I have a problem with what this teaches. The way I learnt it is this<br /> <br /> Work: Applied force x movement in Joule. It's the transferred amount of energy, not stored energy.<br /> Ex: We lift an object of 10kg to 10m high, 1000J of work is done to do this.<br /> <br /> Energy: The ability to do work - Not the flow of work. Rather it should be the other way around: Work is the displacement of energy.<br /> Ex: To be able to lift the object that high, we need to have at least 1000 J of energy somewhere in our system to be able to do it. If we don't have the energy in the system, we can't do it. If we do, we transfer this energy into the object.<br /> <br /> Power: The rate at which work is done and equals the rate at which energy is transferred.<br /> Ex: You need to use 1000kJ, which you do in 10 seconds, meaning you use an average of 100W to lift the object to 10m high.<br /> <br /> (all examples are at 100% efficiency of course)</div>

Gammro https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Talk:Energy_and_work&diff=117623 2015-01-29T08:29:49Z

<p>Gammro: Created page with &quot;I have a problem with what this teaches. The way I learnt it is this Work: Applied force x movement in Joule. It&#039;s the transferred amount of energy, not stored energy. ...&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>I have a problem with what this teaches. The way I learnt it is this<br /> <br /> Work: Applied force x movement in Joule. It's the transferred amount of energy, not stored energy.<br /> Ex: We lift an object of 10kg to 10m high, 1000J of work is done to do this.<br /> <br /> Energy: The ability to do work - Not the flow of work. Rather it should be the other way around: Work is the flow of energy.<br /> Ex: To be able to lift the object that high, we need to have at least 1000 J of energy somewhere in our system to be able to do it. If we don't have the energy in the system, we can't do it.<br /> <br /> Power: The rate at which work is done and equals the rate at which energy is transferred. <br /> Ex: You need to use 1000kJ, which you do in 10 seconds, meaning you use an average of 100W to lift the object to 10m high.<br /> <br /> (all examples are at 100% efficiency of course)<br /> This is a stupid image, but it explains it all, better than me: http://i.imgur.com/o3rI3cO.jpg</div>

Gammro https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Prototype/Locomotive&diff=109862 2014-05-27T18:51:43Z

<p>Gammro: Created page with &quot;==Basics== Entity with specialized properties for acceleration, braking, and turning on rails. Extends the Prototype/TrainUnit == Usage in base== *[[Diesel locomotive|Dies...&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>==Basics==<br /> Entity with specialized properties for acceleration, braking, and turning on rails.<br /> Extends the [[Prototype/TrainUnit]]<br /> == Usage in base==<br /> *[[Diesel locomotive|Diesel_locomotive]]<br /> == Properties ==</div>

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