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User talk:Bilka

2018-07-15T03:33:39Z

Arrkhal:

'''Welcome to ''factorio''!'''
We hope you will contribute much and well.
You will probably want to read the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Contents help pages].
Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Mishka|Mishka]] ([[User talk:Mishka|talk]]) 13:07, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

== Templates that might need CSS cleanup ==
* [[Template:Outdated image]]
** Consider adding css for ''.boilerplate'' classes. This will put all the css of [[Template:Game image]], [[Template:Move]], [[Template:Screenshot]], etc. in one place and reduce loading times --[[User:Longtomjr|Longtomjr]] ([[User talk:Longtomjr|talk]])
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--[[User:Longtomjr|Longtomjr]] ([[User talk:Longtomjr|talk]]) 11:37, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
=== Cleanup done ===
* [[Template:Key]]
* [[Template:Move]]
* [[Template:Disambiguation]]
* [[Template:Cleanup]]
* [[Template:Delete]]
--[[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) 11:52, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

: CSS has been merged into .factorio-boilerplate for all templates that use [[Template:Boilerplate]]. [[Template:Outdated image]], [[Template:Game image]], and [[Template:Screenshot]] still use .boilerplate. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:48, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

== Navigation box links ==

Hi Bilka! I found the misfunction on [[Factorio:Navigation|Navigation]] page. There are links to Navboxes in lower row of each Navbox but in all languages it links to English template. I'm going to change links. Please see the [[User:Snowball_II/Sandbox/ru|example]]. Is it OK to create pages [[Template:ProductionNav/ru]], [[Template:CombatNav/ru]] and so on? --[[User:Snowball II|Snowball II]] ([[User talk:Snowball II|talk]]) 22:50, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 One more question. Is it OK to create pages with Russian names. For example [[Железная плита]] with redirection to [[Iron_plate/ru]]? --[[User:Snowball II|Snowball II]] ([[User talk:Snowball II|talk]]) 13:05, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

: Hi again. I have not received any response so i create pages [[Factorio:Navigation/Logistics]], [[Factorio:Navigation/Logistics/ru]] and change link on [[Template:ProductionNav]]. Don't you mind? --[[User:Snowball II|Snowball II]] ([[User talk:Snowball II|talk]]) 19:59, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

:: Hey there snowball. Not sure why Bilka didn't respond to you, but we are internally debating how to fix navigation boxes. Please leave it alone until we can form a consensus. As for creating russian redirection names, that's completely fine. --[[User:Gangsir|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir|talk]]) - Admin 21:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

== German translation worldgenerator ==

Hi Bilka! I just tried to translate the page [[World_generator]] and for me it feels like the page is verry unorganized since it's not written with a intelligent order. So I stopped translating and tried to rearrange the site. My goal was, writing about the Generator in general, then talking about possible configurations, after that talking about the presets. This because it makes no sence for me to talk about presets if you don't understand what they actually change within the config. So I tried to build up the page like you see the menu ingame. I would like to hear your feedback on my attempt. [[user:Hoeloe/de|Weltengenerator Vorschlag]]

Another problem are those sheets with the preesets. I don't know right now if it makes sence to translate them and how. What do you think, can you help me?

Btw: Thanks for CoReading my stuff and checking for typos, I'm trying my best :)

Greetngs from switzerland [[User:Hoeloe|Hoeloe]] ([[User talk:Hoeloe|talk]]) 11:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

:Your organization definitely seems better to me. I think the biggest problem of the article is that it talks about the gui, its options and their effects, and about how the world generation works. Your organization somewhat seperates those topics, which makes the article more readable.

:Some possible improvements: Perhaps you could also list the presets and their descriptions in the first small section on them, and then put something like "Für genauere Information was die Voreinstellungen verändern, siehe [[#Voreinstellungen|]]". A link from the "basically it works with perlin noise" to the section that explains more about it would also be good. I think it might be a good idea to rework the preset resource table so that it only lists the ''changes'' from the default, instead of every single option, no matter if one of the presets changes it. Since the official game has translaions on everything used in the world generation gui, translating the rest of the tables shouldn't be too hard. It would be nice if you could do that reorganization also on the English page, "aber es ist kein muss".

:I appreciate how well you translate pages. I personally struggle with translating pages like Crafting or the World generator page because I am so used to the English words for things that I can't find appropriate German translations (even though German is my first language...). So thank you for your work on them! -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:12, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

::Thanks for your feedback. I will try to totally rewrite the presets part, but first I need to think about how to. I often use links, sometimes it feels too much for me, but the Perlin Noise one makes sence. There is one big point about the english page I struggle. The [[User:Hoeloe/de#Erweiterte_Konfiguration|Erweiterte Konfiguration]] is actually not covered right now. I don't know, maybe I will try to rewrite the english one, but I definitely need someone to check it since english is not my native language as well.

::I just translate the stuff 1:1, rearrange the sentence so it's readable in german and sometimes I switch some terms for better wording. But I know, sometimes you realy need to think about it since english can be written verry easy, flat and repeating while german can be very complex. I thank you for appreciating my work and also that you check it and help me. Ah and when you read my stuff particularly check for missing β's since this letter does not exist in the Swiss-Deutsche Rechtschreibung :) -- [[User:Hoeloe|Hoeloe]] ([[User talk:Hoeloe|talk]]) 13:30, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

:::Yeah, the advanced options just weren't added to that page yet because it hasn't really seen much of an update to 0.15. I can definitely check the changed page (or your WIP of a rework) for language or ask Gangsir to have a look at it. But what I can read from you right now, your English isn't too bad either :) As a heads up: You should translate page titles, like the title on the crafting page or on the campaign page, using the translation/de template instead of displaytitle. Oh and when you use the languages template, please don't put a blank line between it and the following text. Doing that creates some ugly whitespace at the start of the page. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 15:16, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

::::Okay, *hust* wieso sagt mir das keiner? Dann möge jemand die Anleitung aus dem Language Template entfernen! :P -- [[User:Hoeloe|Hoeloe]] ([[User talk:Hoeloe|talk]]) 12:43, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

:::::I don't see any instructions on that template page that mention using displaytitle. Only in the template itself, stating that it does that. Should I reword that comment? -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:56, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

::::::I just found this sentence in the language template and also in other translated /de articles. That was why I used it, I didn't know the translation template does this job. I need to say I'm not very used to wikis in terms of templates ''programming'' and stuff. Also there is no guide which explains all this.

::::::What do you think about my attempt of the english [[User:Hoeloe/sandbox|Wordlgenerator]]-page? I messed arround with the page again. The ''How it works'' part is now in ''Generation'', Made no sence to me to seperate this. I also changed that ''Generation'' is the first section (we can still swap this afterwards). The ''Presets'' part now does directly attend the individual presets. [[User:Hoeloe|Hoeloe]] ([[User talk:Hoeloe|talk]]) 08:04, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

:::::::Such a (style) guide is currently WIP. Just another thing that is missing documentation :/

:::::::Looks good so far. However, I think putting the technical generation info first isn't a good move. I imagine that the article is frequented by beginners who just want to know what changing the settings does, not how excatl the world is generated, or when chunks are generated. I think it would be a better idea to take the first few paragraphs of that section (up to the algorithm subsection) and leave them at the beginning of the article, perhaps without a header, more as a general thing. The rest of the generation section should be moved below the presets. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:44, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

== About <nowiki>{{translation/ms}}</nowiki> ==

Will do... and now I know how that template works. [[User:SNN95|SNN95]] ([[User talk:SNN95|talk]]) 11:14, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

== Shipwreck ==

I understand the merging, but did you really need to wipe everything? I worked a very long time on that stuff. I don't see the harm in the shipwreck getting mentioned. It is part of the game - something the player can interact with. -- [[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 08:28, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

:Well, the page had to go and I thought I had copied the relevant info. The problem is simply that we cant document the campaign only items at the same place as the freeplay items, that would only confuse the player; but making the shipwreck a subpage of the campaign page doesnt sound useful either, so the info should just be on the campaign (sub-)page. Feel free to add more info back to the campaign page. Since I dont think you can view the deleted page, I copied the latest state of the Shipwreck page to hastebin: [https://hastebin.com/semafisila]. Let me know if you think some of the images should be restored too, or just include them in the campagin page text about the shipwreck as redlinks and I'll restore the relevant ones. I hope this solution is okay for you. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 09:00, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

== Template:Inventory/pl‎‎ ==

Hi Bilka,
I apologize for the confusion with the site Inventory/pl‎‎, I read the rules, but I did not apply :(

I wanted to make the name appear in my language after hovering over the icon, so I just start translate in links on this page, from <pre><div class="factorio-icon">[[File:Transport belt.png|32px|link=Transport belt{{If language suffix}}]]</div></pre> to <pre><div class="factorio-icon">[[File:Transport belt.png|32px|link=Transport belt{{If language suffix}}|Taśmociąg]]</div></pre>

After you deleted the page, I started to wonder if it would be better to add to all links in Template:Inventory <pre>{{Translation|...}}</pre> for example: <pre><div class="factorio-icon">[[File:Transport belt.png|32px|link=Transport belt{{If language suffix}}|{{Translation|Transport belt}}]]</div></pre>

Do I think right? {{Unsigned|JakubSTR|11:15, 9 February 2018‎}}

: That indeed was a good idea, so I added it. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:41, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

== Intermediary Products ==

Am I allowed to make a page on intermediary products? --[[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 14:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

: What would be on it? We already have [[:Category:Intermediate products]] which lists all of the items in the intermediate tab in the inventory, what extra information would you add to a page about them? Also please consider moving this discussion to the wiki-work channel in the [https://discord.gg/factorio factorio subreddit discord], communication is much faster there :) -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 15:16, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I was also thinking about adding such page or modifying [[:Category:Intermediate products]], as there are now two meanings to the phrase "intermediate products": this can either be the products on the "intermediate products" tab or the items that can be created using productivity modules. I've tried to clarify this on the [[Module]] page, but perhaps a separate one would help with that too. [[User:Uukgoblin|Uukgoblin]] ([[User talk:Uukgoblin|talk]]) 13:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

:Intermediate products are intermediate products and that's it. The error message you get from productivity modules is simply misleading, and will hopefully be changed. However, I've been thinking about making a category for "recipes that accept productivity modules" for a while. If you have an idea for a shorter, non-misleading name that is not "intermediate produtcs", let me know and I'll set up the category. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 14:04, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
:: OK, that makes sense. Yeah, a good name for such category is not easy to come up with :-) Maybe the devs will sort it out for us when they fix the error message ;-) [[User:Uukgoblin|Uukgoblin]] ([[User talk:Uukgoblin|talk]]) 14:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

== Is there any ways to mark the translation obsolete? ==

Hi Bilka! I'm glad that [[special:diff/156286|you gave me a welcome message]].

I found some of translations obsolete and useless.
For example, the Japanese version of [[Electric system/ja|Electric system]] didn't mentioned [[Steam turbine]] or [[Nuclear power (research)]].
Maybe it's too much and too obvious for example, but there should be more obsolete texts it's not so clear to be obsolete.

The wiki forced editors to follow the English version, so I think it's convenient if there is a template, a category or something to state that the translation is obsolete. (It's also good if some bots automagically detect the obsolete pages and notify readers/writers of that)
--[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 07:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

:If we had such a template, we would just end up with many pages being marked, which is not an improvement, it's just clutter. If you see that a page is outdated, update it. If you dont have the time/energy/whatever to update it, put it on a to-do-list in your userspace. This has the same result as marking with a template, but wont clutter a lot of pages. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 20:14, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

:: First, I don't think it's not an improvement that mark obsolete pages obsolete, since it could be simply a lie. It helps not only writers but also readers. So I don't think it's enough to put in my mind or my userspace.
:: But your concern is reasonable. Well, If we put and remove the template by hand, it should be just clutter. But I don't think leaving it to bots are quite hard. Basically, it watches [[Special:RecentChanges]]. If an English page is edited, then follow the inter-lang links and paste the template(or anything). If a non-English page which contains the template is edited, simply remove the template. If this is too much or too less, we can add some conditions like:
::* tolerant to small changes (ex: edit only 2bytes changed, which is likely to fix typo)
::* tolerant unless it's too obsolete (ex: only if the sum of changes in the original is more than a threshold / only if the translation is n-months older than original)
::* force non-English editors to tell translation edits from the other minor ones apart (ex: translate edit should contain '[Tt]ranslat' in Summary)
::* etc...
:: If your concern is that template/category/something itself is a clutter to readers, maybe it's not so much. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_additional_references Make it hidden category as wikipedia do]. If your concern is about server performances, it's over. I have no way to deal it with :P --[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 04:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

::: My concern is that it wont be useful because so many pages will be marked. Furthermore, a script that automatically marks pages will be very error-prone since it's a bot, and not a human. But I should be able to throw together a script that makes a list of most likely outdated pages. That will take a few days, then we can review the list to see if it would actually be useful to mark all of those pages, and take appropiate action. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 15:37, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

:::: I understood your concern. And I believe it can be solved by an appropriate conditioning. Anyway, I'm glad to hear that you are willing to try it to gather information to review. Thank you for your support with a bot. I hope it will work out fine. (p.s. I don't know [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Bots what language you are using to run bot on the wiki], but I can r/w some python or java so maybe I can help you with reviewing script)--[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 10:32, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

::::: I wrote the script, you can find it here: [https://github.com/Bilka2/Wiki-scripts/blob/master/Find-outdated-lang-pages.js] The result of it is about what I was expecting: [[User:Bilka/Outdated pages]]. Most pages are outdated, so the list is rather useless. I excluded my own and my bot's edit from the language page dates because I only made structure maintaining edits on language pages without actually changing the content. I hope this shows why I dont think it's a good idea to mark the pages with templates. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 18:27, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

:(<- outdent) Thank you for writing a script! And as mentioned above, some filtering by certain conditions might be useful to reduce the number of "outdated" pages. [https://github.com/Bilka2/Wiki-scripts/blob/master/Find-outdated-lang-pages.js#L191 The script simply compare their timestamps], and this results in too many candidates and make the list useless. So why not try to introduce some limitations such as <code>en.timestamp > langTimestamp + PATIENCE_CONST</code>, or setting <code>rvlimit</code> parameter gives us previous revisions so that we can ignore minor edits. I don't know how it costs server resources, but if not too much, I think it still can be useful. (P.S. Can I run/test the script without special privileges? [[Special:ApiSandbox]] is not so flexible...) --[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 06:28, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

:: Both your proposed conditions will falsify the result. Even 1 edit on a page can make any translation outdated, no matter how old it is, see for example [[Special:Diff/155934]]. So for example excluding pages that are "only" a week/month outdated will lead to wrong results. We have no rules or guides for what to mark as a minor edit since it is impossible to enforce, so sorting by that would also lead to wrong results. You should be able to test the script by just copying pasting it into the browser console and running <code>main(languages);</code> after lowering the 100 in line 112 and 113 to 50 to account for your lower api limits. The create page call on line 64 also wont work, you'll have to find another way to print the output somewhere. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 09:29, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

== Translate template to different word-order languages ==

Hi Bilka! I find it hard to translate [[:Template:about]] to Japanese.

In the [[Factorio:Translation_guide]], it says translation of templates should be done with just replace the argument of the template.
And the first sentence of [[:Template:about]] is <code><nowiki>{{Translation|This article is about}} {{{1}}}.</nowiki></code>.
But in Japanese, that sentence should be translated as <code><nowiki>この項目では、{{{1}}}について説明しています。</nowiki></code>. I mean, another translation template is needed after <code><nowiki>{{{1}}}</nowiki></code> to simply substitute. Some similar issue should be aroud here and there since Japanese has quite different word-order to English or other Europian languages, so I want to know how to translate in such cases.

(reference: [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Otheruses#%E4%BB%96%E3%81%AE%E9%A0%85%E7%9B%AE%E3%81%B8%E3%81%AE%E8%AA%98%E5%B0%8E Template:Otheruses in Japanese Wikipedia], which is used as equivalent of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:About Template:About in the other languages].){{Unsigned|Fried biter|13:20, 10 March 2018‎}}

:Sadly there is no good way to solve this issue. Due to how translations are set up on this wiki, I can't add another translation template after the <code><nowiki>{{{1}}}</nowiki></code>, or include it in the template used for the sentence, neither of these options would yield the desired result. So, your options now are either making template:about/ja and translating the template directly, or rewording the sentence in a way that uses the English sentence structure, which would be preferable. I can understand that the second option may be very hard to do, which is why the first option would be acceptable. This issue and the options to solve it vary on a case by case basis, so please let me know of any other templates where you also have this problem before doing anything with them. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 14:03, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

:: Okay, I will postpone translating [https://wiki.factorio.com/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=10 the templates] until the consensus about how to translate them has reached by the Japanese editors community. Additionally, I will inspect them and try translations by rewording. If it's done, I will notice you. --[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 05:30, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

== Getting rid of BurnerNav template ==

Hi, Thanks for the initial warm welcome!

I've seen that the [[Template:BurnerNav]] didn't get the same treatment as other nav templates, so I've added missing links. However, I've now realised that the content of this template is entirely covered by other nav templates (Intermediate products, Production items, Logistics templates). What about getting rid of that template and relaying on the existing ones instead? [[User:Spyhawk|Spyhawk]] ([[User talk:Spyhawk|talk]]) 17:53, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

:I agree, so I added the valid fuel row to the infoboxes to completely replace the template, the template will be deleted soon. Please next time think about these kind of implications before editing some of the most used templates on the wiki. Thank you. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 18:37, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

:: Yes, definitely a big oversight from my side. Sorry about that! [[User:Spyhawk|Spyhawk]] ([[User talk:Spyhawk|talk]]) 18:58, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

== Roadmap ==

Hi,

The [[Roadmap]] page is deceptively empty. What about merging [[Roadmap/Coming_Releases]] with it, as it serves as the actual Roadmap page anyway? [[User:Spyhawk|Spyhawk]] ([[User talk:Spyhawk|talk]]) 13:47, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

: Hey, this had been planned for a while, thank you for reminding me. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 14:43, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

:: Thank you, this is much better now. [[User:Spyhawk|Spyhawk]] ([[User talk:Spyhawk|talk]]) 14:57, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

== Tutorial: Combinator tutorial edit ==

Hey Bilka. This was my first edit, so forgive me for overlooking the summary section of the edit page. I removed a link that serves no educational purpose and seems self-promotional to me. Exploring this youtube channel does lead to some videos that may or may not be relevant, but the link itself is too aspecific. And because of the other link (reddit), it is also redundant.

Even if it were just plain text, claiming ownership of an idea on this wiki seems inappropriate to me, although I'm not sure if there's a specific rule against it.

By the way, is this the place to post this, or should I use the discussion page of the page in question? {{Unsigned|Koekjesfabriek|20:55, 30 April 2018‎}}

:The design is mostly known under the name of the original designer ("Madzuris train loader"), so it is not directly self-promotional. I however agree that the link to the reddit thread is enough, so I removed the youtube link again, and included the name with the reddit link, so that people searching for the design can still find it.

:This is the right place; a big reason for reverting your edit was that it was your first edit, and a "controversial" one, so I expected some kind of reasoning. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 07:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

== New translation language - pt-pt ==

Hey Bilka, I am new to the wiki and I would like to contribute translations in pt-pt. Can you please add support for this language? Thanks. [[User:FranzPT|FranzPT]] ([[User talk:FranzPT|talk]]) 15:03, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

:Thanks for the notice, I have added support for pt-pt. Have fun translating! -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 15:06, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

::Nice, thanks for the quick response. I will carefully read about the translation rules/procedures and start asap. [[User:FranzPT|FranzPT]] ([[User talk:FranzPT|talk]]) 16:30, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

== What is the standard on what information is useful? ==

Are you always this hostile to everyone? Honestly, this explains why the wiki has so much outdated information. I'm just trying to follow some kind of consistent guideline.

A number of pages already use smallest whole-number ratios as building guidelines, especially for early and midgame structures. https://wiki.factorio.com/Solar_panel 23.8 solar panels per megawatt is somehow "useful information", and 1,000 / 42 is apparently not "easy to calculate"? What exactly is the standard?

If power grid information is that obvious, does the laser turret page really need a note about energy usage at all? Again, I'm just trying to find a consistent standard. Does every single page for a high-energy drain building need a "don't forget to build accumulators and steam storage" reminder? The roboport page only has a much less specific "make sure your power grid can handle the load" reminder (again, is it really necessary to even have that, when the building clearly consumes up to 5 MW when active?). But then it just copy-pastes numbers from the sidebar. The numbers are literally right next to duplicate information. That's "helpful" and "not easy to calculate"? You're really going to need to explain, clearly and precisely, what the standard is, instead of making rude, passive-aggressive remarks. {{Unsigned|Arrkhal|20:19, 10 July 2018}}

:Since you presented examples I will explain the rough guidelines using them:

::The information on the solar panel page is useful because you deal in predictable units in the electric system; usually you will know how much power you want your solar panels to supply. This amount of power can usually be obtained directly from the game when you are building solar panels to replace another energy source, or from online calculators when you are planning a setup. It shouldn't have its own section though, that is likely just a relict from an earlier version of the page.

:: In contrast, when dealing with enemies nothing is predictable: Neither the number of enemies, when they will attack, or their strength can be reliably predicted, meaning that you will never know how much shots your turrets will fire. So, the information does not have a use case.

::I am still unsure about how suitable the sentence on the laser turret page is, which is why I modified it when I reverted your edit. I will put further thought into whether it should be removed completely. In general, the high power demand should not be mentioned on every page. The roboport section wasn't changed since the guidelines were established, so I took the liberty to fix it.

:As you can see, there can't really be a consistent standard about something where context matters immensely. I recommend you to just edit the pages while trying to follow the general style. After a while you will get a feeling for what is suitable, and until then, your edits will be corrected. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 19:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

::Thanks for taking the time to explain the general guidelines more clearly, and I apologize if my first comment was itself passive-agressive, I was just a little frustrated with the lack of consistency with page information, and lack of clear communication about exactly what was amiss with my edits, instead of just generic "not helpful" and "then don't edit" notes. Anyway, if specific power grid management tips shouldn't go on most buildings, maybe it should just a basic "this building has unpredictable and high power needs which can lead to brownouts or blackouts, unless the power grid is able to compensate" with a link to the power grid guide, rather than the much more specific advice for accumulators and steam storage? [[User:Arrkhal|Arrkhal]] ([[User talk:Arrkhal|talk]]) 03:33, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Bilka

2018-07-10T18:19:44Z

Arrkhal: /* Hostile, unprofessional, inconsistent */ new section

'''Welcome to ''factorio''!'''
We hope you will contribute much and well.
You will probably want to read the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Contents help pages].
Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Mishka|Mishka]] ([[User talk:Mishka|talk]]) 13:07, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

== Templates that might need CSS cleanup ==
* [[Template:Outdated image]]
** Consider adding css for ''.boilerplate'' classes. This will put all the css of [[Template:Game image]], [[Template:Move]], [[Template:Screenshot]], etc. in one place and reduce loading times --[[User:Longtomjr|Longtomjr]] ([[User talk:Longtomjr|talk]])
<s>
* [[Template:Game image]]
</s>
--[[User:Longtomjr|Longtomjr]] ([[User talk:Longtomjr|talk]]) 11:37, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
=== Cleanup done ===
* [[Template:Key]]
* [[Template:Move]]
* [[Template:Disambiguation]]
* [[Template:Cleanup]]
* [[Template:Delete]]
--[[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) 11:52, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

: CSS has been merged into .factorio-boilerplate for all templates that use [[Template:Boilerplate]]. [[Template:Outdated image]], [[Template:Game image]], and [[Template:Screenshot]] still use .boilerplate. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:48, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

== Navigation box links ==

Hi Bilka! I found the misfunction on [[Factorio:Navigation|Navigation]] page. There are links to Navboxes in lower row of each Navbox but in all languages it links to English template. I'm going to change links. Please see the [[User:Snowball_II/Sandbox/ru|example]]. Is it OK to create pages [[Template:ProductionNav/ru]], [[Template:CombatNav/ru]] and so on? --[[User:Snowball II|Snowball II]] ([[User talk:Snowball II|talk]]) 22:50, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 One more question. Is it OK to create pages with Russian names. For example [[Железная плита]] with redirection to [[Iron_plate/ru]]? --[[User:Snowball II|Snowball II]] ([[User talk:Snowball II|talk]]) 13:05, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

: Hi again. I have not received any response so i create pages [[Factorio:Navigation/Logistics]], [[Factorio:Navigation/Logistics/ru]] and change link on [[Template:ProductionNav]]. Don't you mind? --[[User:Snowball II|Snowball II]] ([[User talk:Snowball II|talk]]) 19:59, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

:: Hey there snowball. Not sure why Bilka didn't respond to you, but we are internally debating how to fix navigation boxes. Please leave it alone until we can form a consensus. As for creating russian redirection names, that's completely fine. --[[User:Gangsir|Gangsir]] ([[User talk:Gangsir|talk]]) - Admin 21:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

== German translation worldgenerator ==

Hi Bilka! I just tried to translate the page [[World_generator]] and for me it feels like the page is verry unorganized since it's not written with a intelligent order. So I stopped translating and tried to rearrange the site. My goal was, writing about the Generator in general, then talking about possible configurations, after that talking about the presets. This because it makes no sence for me to talk about presets if you don't understand what they actually change within the config. So I tried to build up the page like you see the menu ingame. I would like to hear your feedback on my attempt. [[user:Hoeloe/de|Weltengenerator Vorschlag]]

Another problem are those sheets with the preesets. I don't know right now if it makes sence to translate them and how. What do you think, can you help me?

Btw: Thanks for CoReading my stuff and checking for typos, I'm trying my best :)

Greetngs from switzerland [[User:Hoeloe|Hoeloe]] ([[User talk:Hoeloe|talk]]) 11:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

:Your organization definitely seems better to me. I think the biggest problem of the article is that it talks about the gui, its options and their effects, and about how the world generation works. Your organization somewhat seperates those topics, which makes the article more readable.

:Some possible improvements: Perhaps you could also list the presets and their descriptions in the first small section on them, and then put something like "Für genauere Information was die Voreinstellungen verändern, siehe [[#Voreinstellungen|]]". A link from the "basically it works with perlin noise" to the section that explains more about it would also be good. I think it might be a good idea to rework the preset resource table so that it only lists the ''changes'' from the default, instead of every single option, no matter if one of the presets changes it. Since the official game has translaions on everything used in the world generation gui, translating the rest of the tables shouldn't be too hard. It would be nice if you could do that reorganization also on the English page, "aber es ist kein muss".

:I appreciate how well you translate pages. I personally struggle with translating pages like Crafting or the World generator page because I am so used to the English words for things that I can't find appropriate German translations (even though German is my first language...). So thank you for your work on them! -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:12, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

::Thanks for your feedback. I will try to totally rewrite the presets part, but first I need to think about how to. I often use links, sometimes it feels too much for me, but the Perlin Noise one makes sence. There is one big point about the english page I struggle. The [[User:Hoeloe/de#Erweiterte_Konfiguration|Erweiterte Konfiguration]] is actually not covered right now. I don't know, maybe I will try to rewrite the english one, but I definitely need someone to check it since english is not my native language as well.

::I just translate the stuff 1:1, rearrange the sentence so it's readable in german and sometimes I switch some terms for better wording. But I know, sometimes you realy need to think about it since english can be written verry easy, flat and repeating while german can be very complex. I thank you for appreciating my work and also that you check it and help me. Ah and when you read my stuff particularly check for missing β's since this letter does not exist in the Swiss-Deutsche Rechtschreibung :) -- [[User:Hoeloe|Hoeloe]] ([[User talk:Hoeloe|talk]]) 13:30, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

:::Yeah, the advanced options just weren't added to that page yet because it hasn't really seen much of an update to 0.15. I can definitely check the changed page (or your WIP of a rework) for language or ask Gangsir to have a look at it. But what I can read from you right now, your English isn't too bad either :) As a heads up: You should translate page titles, like the title on the crafting page or on the campaign page, using the translation/de template instead of displaytitle. Oh and when you use the languages template, please don't put a blank line between it and the following text. Doing that creates some ugly whitespace at the start of the page. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 15:16, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

::::Okay, *hust* wieso sagt mir das keiner? Dann möge jemand die Anleitung aus dem Language Template entfernen! :P -- [[User:Hoeloe|Hoeloe]] ([[User talk:Hoeloe|talk]]) 12:43, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

:::::I don't see any instructions on that template page that mention using displaytitle. Only in the template itself, stating that it does that. Should I reword that comment? -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:56, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

::::::I just found this sentence in the language template and also in other translated /de articles. That was why I used it, I didn't know the translation template does this job. I need to say I'm not very used to wikis in terms of templates ''programming'' and stuff. Also there is no guide which explains all this.

::::::What do you think about my attempt of the english [[User:Hoeloe/sandbox|Wordlgenerator]]-page? I messed arround with the page again. The ''How it works'' part is now in ''Generation'', Made no sence to me to seperate this. I also changed that ''Generation'' is the first section (we can still swap this afterwards). The ''Presets'' part now does directly attend the individual presets. [[User:Hoeloe|Hoeloe]] ([[User talk:Hoeloe|talk]]) 08:04, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

:::::::Such a (style) guide is currently WIP. Just another thing that is missing documentation :/

:::::::Looks good so far. However, I think putting the technical generation info first isn't a good move. I imagine that the article is frequented by beginners who just want to know what changing the settings does, not how excatl the world is generated, or when chunks are generated. I think it would be a better idea to take the first few paragraphs of that section (up to the algorithm subsection) and leave them at the beginning of the article, perhaps without a header, more as a general thing. The rest of the generation section should be moved below the presets. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:44, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

== About <nowiki>{{translation/ms}}</nowiki> ==

Will do... and now I know how that template works. [[User:SNN95|SNN95]] ([[User talk:SNN95|talk]]) 11:14, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

== Shipwreck ==

I understand the merging, but did you really need to wipe everything? I worked a very long time on that stuff. I don't see the harm in the shipwreck getting mentioned. It is part of the game - something the player can interact with. -- [[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 08:28, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

:Well, the page had to go and I thought I had copied the relevant info. The problem is simply that we cant document the campaign only items at the same place as the freeplay items, that would only confuse the player; but making the shipwreck a subpage of the campaign page doesnt sound useful either, so the info should just be on the campaign (sub-)page. Feel free to add more info back to the campaign page. Since I dont think you can view the deleted page, I copied the latest state of the Shipwreck page to hastebin: [https://hastebin.com/semafisila]. Let me know if you think some of the images should be restored too, or just include them in the campagin page text about the shipwreck as redlinks and I'll restore the relevant ones. I hope this solution is okay for you. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 09:00, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

== Template:Inventory/pl‎‎ ==

Hi Bilka,
I apologize for the confusion with the site Inventory/pl‎‎, I read the rules, but I did not apply :(

I wanted to make the name appear in my language after hovering over the icon, so I just start translate in links on this page, from <pre><div class="factorio-icon">[[File:Transport belt.png|32px|link=Transport belt{{If language suffix}}]]</div></pre> to <pre><div class="factorio-icon">[[File:Transport belt.png|32px|link=Transport belt{{If language suffix}}|Taśmociąg]]</div></pre>

After you deleted the page, I started to wonder if it would be better to add to all links in Template:Inventory <pre>{{Translation|...}}</pre> for example: <pre><div class="factorio-icon">[[File:Transport belt.png|32px|link=Transport belt{{If language suffix}}|{{Translation|Transport belt}}]]</div></pre>

Do I think right? {{Unsigned|JakubSTR|11:15, 9 February 2018‎}}

: That indeed was a good idea, so I added it. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 12:41, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

== Intermediary Products ==

Am I allowed to make a page on intermediary products? --[[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 14:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

: What would be on it? We already have [[:Category:Intermediate products]] which lists all of the items in the intermediate tab in the inventory, what extra information would you add to a page about them? Also please consider moving this discussion to the wiki-work channel in the [https://discord.gg/factorio factorio subreddit discord], communication is much faster there :) -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 15:16, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I was also thinking about adding such page or modifying [[:Category:Intermediate products]], as there are now two meanings to the phrase "intermediate products": this can either be the products on the "intermediate products" tab or the items that can be created using productivity modules. I've tried to clarify this on the [[Module]] page, but perhaps a separate one would help with that too. [[User:Uukgoblin|Uukgoblin]] ([[User talk:Uukgoblin|talk]]) 13:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

:Intermediate products are intermediate products and that's it. The error message you get from productivity modules is simply misleading, and will hopefully be changed. However, I've been thinking about making a category for "recipes that accept productivity modules" for a while. If you have an idea for a shorter, non-misleading name that is not "intermediate produtcs", let me know and I'll set up the category. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 14:04, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
:: OK, that makes sense. Yeah, a good name for such category is not easy to come up with :-) Maybe the devs will sort it out for us when they fix the error message ;-) [[User:Uukgoblin|Uukgoblin]] ([[User talk:Uukgoblin|talk]]) 14:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

== Is there any ways to mark the translation obsolete? ==

Hi Bilka! I'm glad that [[special:diff/156286|you gave me a welcome message]].

I found some of translations obsolete and useless.
For example, the Japanese version of [[Electric system/ja|Electric system]] didn't mentioned [[Steam turbine]] or [[Nuclear power (research)]].
Maybe it's too much and too obvious for example, but there should be more obsolete texts it's not so clear to be obsolete.

The wiki forced editors to follow the English version, so I think it's convenient if there is a template, a category or something to state that the translation is obsolete. (It's also good if some bots automagically detect the obsolete pages and notify readers/writers of that)
--[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 07:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

:If we had such a template, we would just end up with many pages being marked, which is not an improvement, it's just clutter. If you see that a page is outdated, update it. If you dont have the time/energy/whatever to update it, put it on a to-do-list in your userspace. This has the same result as marking with a template, but wont clutter a lot of pages. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 20:14, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

:: First, I don't think it's not an improvement that mark obsolete pages obsolete, since it could be simply a lie. It helps not only writers but also readers. So I don't think it's enough to put in my mind or my userspace.
:: But your concern is reasonable. Well, If we put and remove the template by hand, it should be just clutter. But I don't think leaving it to bots are quite hard. Basically, it watches [[Special:RecentChanges]]. If an English page is edited, then follow the inter-lang links and paste the template(or anything). If a non-English page which contains the template is edited, simply remove the template. If this is too much or too less, we can add some conditions like:
::* tolerant to small changes (ex: edit only 2bytes changed, which is likely to fix typo)
::* tolerant unless it's too obsolete (ex: only if the sum of changes in the original is more than a threshold / only if the translation is n-months older than original)
::* force non-English editors to tell translation edits from the other minor ones apart (ex: translate edit should contain '[Tt]ranslat' in Summary)
::* etc...
:: If your concern is that template/category/something itself is a clutter to readers, maybe it's not so much. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_additional_references Make it hidden category as wikipedia do]. If your concern is about server performances, it's over. I have no way to deal it with :P --[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 04:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

::: My concern is that it wont be useful because so many pages will be marked. Furthermore, a script that automatically marks pages will be very error-prone since it's a bot, and not a human. But I should be able to throw together a script that makes a list of most likely outdated pages. That will take a few days, then we can review the list to see if it would actually be useful to mark all of those pages, and take appropiate action. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 15:37, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

:::: I understood your concern. And I believe it can be solved by an appropriate conditioning. Anyway, I'm glad to hear that you are willing to try it to gather information to review. Thank you for your support with a bot. I hope it will work out fine. (p.s. I don't know [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Bots what language you are using to run bot on the wiki], but I can r/w some python or java so maybe I can help you with reviewing script)--[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 10:32, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

::::: I wrote the script, you can find it here: [https://github.com/Bilka2/Wiki-scripts/blob/master/Find-outdated-lang-pages.js] The result of it is about what I was expecting: [[User:Bilka/Outdated pages]]. Most pages are outdated, so the list is rather useless. I excluded my own and my bot's edit from the language page dates because I only made structure maintaining edits on language pages without actually changing the content. I hope this shows why I dont think it's a good idea to mark the pages with templates. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 18:27, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

:(<- outdent) Thank you for writing a script! And as mentioned above, some filtering by certain conditions might be useful to reduce the number of "outdated" pages. [https://github.com/Bilka2/Wiki-scripts/blob/master/Find-outdated-lang-pages.js#L191 The script simply compare their timestamps], and this results in too many candidates and make the list useless. So why not try to introduce some limitations such as <code>en.timestamp > langTimestamp + PATIENCE_CONST</code>, or setting <code>rvlimit</code> parameter gives us previous revisions so that we can ignore minor edits. I don't know how it costs server resources, but if not too much, I think it still can be useful. (P.S. Can I run/test the script without special privileges? [[Special:ApiSandbox]] is not so flexible...) --[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 06:28, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

:: Both your proposed conditions will falsify the result. Even 1 edit on a page can make any translation outdated, no matter how old it is, see for example [[Special:Diff/155934]]. So for example excluding pages that are "only" a week/month outdated will lead to wrong results. We have no rules or guides for what to mark as a minor edit since it is impossible to enforce, so sorting by that would also lead to wrong results. You should be able to test the script by just copying pasting it into the browser console and running <code>main(languages);</code> after lowering the 100 in line 112 and 113 to 50 to account for your lower api limits. The create page call on line 64 also wont work, you'll have to find another way to print the output somewhere. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 09:29, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

== Translate template to different word-order languages ==

Hi Bilka! I find it hard to translate [[:Template:about]] to Japanese.

In the [[Factorio:Translation_guide]], it says translation of templates should be done with just replace the argument of the template.
And the first sentence of [[:Template:about]] is <code><nowiki>{{Translation|This article is about}} {{{1}}}.</nowiki></code>.
But in Japanese, that sentence should be translated as <code><nowiki>この項目では、{{{1}}}について説明しています。</nowiki></code>. I mean, another translation template is needed after <code><nowiki>{{{1}}}</nowiki></code> to simply substitute. Some similar issue should be aroud here and there since Japanese has quite different word-order to English or other Europian languages, so I want to know how to translate in such cases.

(reference: [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Otheruses#%E4%BB%96%E3%81%AE%E9%A0%85%E7%9B%AE%E3%81%B8%E3%81%AE%E8%AA%98%E5%B0%8E Template:Otheruses in Japanese Wikipedia], which is used as equivalent of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:About Template:About in the other languages].){{Unsigned|Fried biter|13:20, 10 March 2018‎}}

:Sadly there is no good way to solve this issue. Due to how translations are set up on this wiki, I can't add another translation template after the <code><nowiki>{{{1}}}</nowiki></code>, or include it in the template used for the sentence, neither of these options would yield the desired result. So, your options now are either making template:about/ja and translating the template directly, or rewording the sentence in a way that uses the English sentence structure, which would be preferable. I can understand that the second option may be very hard to do, which is why the first option would be acceptable. This issue and the options to solve it vary on a case by case basis, so please let me know of any other templates where you also have this problem before doing anything with them. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 14:03, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

:: Okay, I will postpone translating [https://wiki.factorio.com/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=10 the templates] until the consensus about how to translate them has reached by the Japanese editors community. Additionally, I will inspect them and try translations by rewording. If it's done, I will notice you. --[[User:Fried biter|Fried biter]] ([[User talk:Fried biter|talk]]) 05:30, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

== Getting rid of BurnerNav template ==

Hi, Thanks for the initial warm welcome!

I've seen that the [[Template:BurnerNav]] didn't get the same treatment as other nav templates, so I've added missing links. However, I've now realised that the content of this template is entirely covered by other nav templates (Intermediate products, Production items, Logistics templates). What about getting rid of that template and relaying on the existing ones instead? [[User:Spyhawk|Spyhawk]] ([[User talk:Spyhawk|talk]]) 17:53, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

:I agree, so I added the valid fuel row to the infoboxes to completely replace the template, the template will be deleted soon. Please next time think about these kind of implications before editing some of the most used templates on the wiki. Thank you. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 18:37, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

:: Yes, definitely a big oversight from my side. Sorry about that! [[User:Spyhawk|Spyhawk]] ([[User talk:Spyhawk|talk]]) 18:58, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

== Roadmap ==

Hi,

The [[Roadmap]] page is deceptively empty. What about merging [[Roadmap/Coming_Releases]] with it, as it serves as the actual Roadmap page anyway? [[User:Spyhawk|Spyhawk]] ([[User talk:Spyhawk|talk]]) 13:47, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

: Hey, this had been planned for a while, thank you for reminding me. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 14:43, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

:: Thank you, this is much better now. [[User:Spyhawk|Spyhawk]] ([[User talk:Spyhawk|talk]]) 14:57, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

== Tutorial: Combinator tutorial edit ==

Hey Bilka. This was my first edit, so forgive me for overlooking the summary section of the edit page. I removed a link that serves no educational purpose and seems self-promotional to me. Exploring this youtube channel does lead to some videos that may or may not be relevant, but the link itself is too aspecific. And because of the other link (reddit), it is also redundant.

Even if it were just plain text, claiming ownership of an idea on this wiki seems inappropriate to me, although I'm not sure if there's a specific rule against it.

By the way, is this the place to post this, or should I use the discussion page of the page in question? {{Unsigned|Koekjesfabriek|20:55, 30 April 2018‎}}

:The design is mostly known under the name of the original designer ("Madzuris train loader"), so it is not directly self-promotional. I however agree that the link to the reddit thread is enough, so I removed the youtube link again, and included the name with the reddit link, so that people searching for the design can still find it.

:This is the right place; a big reason for reverting your edit was that it was your first edit, and a "controversial" one, so I expected some kind of reasoning. -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 07:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

== New translation language - pt-pt ==

Hey Bilka, I am new to the wiki and I would like to contribute translations in pt-pt. Can you please add support for this language? Thanks. [[User:FranzPT|FranzPT]] ([[User talk:FranzPT|talk]]) 15:03, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

:Thanks for the notice, I have added support for pt-pt. Have fun translating! -- [[User:Bilka|Bilka]] ([[User talk:Bilka|talk]]) - Admin 15:06, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

::Nice, thanks for the quick response. I will carefully read about the translation rules/procedures and start asap. [[User:FranzPT|FranzPT]] ([[User talk:FranzPT|talk]]) 16:30, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

== Hostile, unprofessional, inconsistent ==

Are you always this hostile to everyone? Honestly, this explains why the wiki has so much outdated information. I'm just trying to follow some kind of consistent guideline.

A number of pages already use smallest whole-number ratios as building guidelines, especially for early and midgame structures. https://wiki.factorio.com/Solar_panel 23.8 solar panels per megawatt is somehow "useful information", and 1,000 / 42 is apparently not "easy to calculate"? What exactly is the standard?

If power grid information is that obvious, does the laser turret page really need a note about energy usage at all? Again, I'm just trying to find a consistent standard. Does every single page for a high-energy drain building need a "don't forget to build accumulators and steam storage" reminder? The roboport page only has a much less specific "make sure your power grid can handle the load" reminder (again, is it really necessary to even have that, when the building clearly consumes up to 5 MW when active?). But then it just copy-pastes numbers from the sidebar. The numbers are literally right next to duplicate information. That's "helpful" and "not easy to calculate"? You're really going to need to explain, clearly and precisely, what the standard is, instead of making rude, passive-aggressive remarks.

Railway

2018-07-10T01:12:33Z

Arrkhal: /* Signals */

{{Languages}}
:''For the research see [[Railway (research)]]''

'''The Railway''' is one of the main transport methods in Factorio. Although the installation of such a network can be complicated, and requires a large amount of resource and space, it is faster and more efficient than [[Belt transport system|belts]] and [[Logistic network|robot logistics]], especially over large distances.

Railway construction, however, is not understood instantly. It takes some time to learn the basics, such as automating transportation. Learning how to manage and maintain upkeep of a larger train network takes time and experience.

== Infrastructure ==

To build a railway, tracks (also called rails) must be built for the train to ride on. Typically, this is done via the [[rail planner]], but can also be done manually. Bear in mind that rails are placed on a two-tile grid, so a rail cannot be moved by only one tile.

=== Minimum manually operated railway ===
As a minimum a manually operated railway has to consist of:
* [[Rail]]s (tracks)
* [[Locomotive]]s

Locomotives can be entered and then manually operated by standing next to them and pressing the {{Key|ENTER}} button.

=== Switches ===
* There is no visual representation of a working switch, however the rails will appear to merge. Using the rail planner, the player must place a [[rail]] overlapping an existing rail to form a switch. Switches are forks in tracks that allow a train to pick between two directional options.
* The crossing of two straight tracks is not usable as switch, as trains have a limited turning radius. They do, however, connect [[Rail signal| signal blocks]] which helps prevent collisions.
* Parallel tracks do not interact with each other. However, switching from one track to the other can require extra resources if they are too close together; the track must turn away from the other parallel track and then turn back to it. This can create complicated networks of signals and, as such, one should generally not build parallel tracks unless they are spaced adequately. (Generally, 2 track widths apart works well)

[[File:fff-140-controlled-gates.gif|thumb|An example of a safe railway crossing.]]
=== Crossing tracks ===

'''Be careful when crossing tracks! Trains are one of the highest damaging entities in the game, and will kill most players instantly on contact.'''

A checklist of proper track crossing etiquette:

# Zoom out, so that you can see a train coming.
# Look left, then right.
# Check for signals nearby: If a [[rail signal]] suddenly jumps from green to red or green to yellow, a train is coming. Do not cross.
# Avoid walking near the tracks, as you do not need to be fully on the tracks to get hit.
# While it is possible to get into/out of a train while it is moving, a miss can cost your life. The sides of the train can still deal damage, as well as the player being able to slip between two rail cars.
# Heavy [[Energy shield|shields]] can be used to reduce the damage taken. In extreme cases, it is possible to stop a train with your body. This will require several shield modules to not be instantly killed, and will drain a large amount of the suit's energy.
# All entities with health will take damage getting hit by a train, so take care not to leave a [[Car]] or [[Tank]] on the tracks. However, this includes hostile forces!
# Trains far from a [[train stop]] will be traveling at (near) max speed, so take extra precaution when crossing and zoom out further. Trains near a [[train stop]] or signal will slow down to stop, and will be traveling slower. Trains of different configurations will also move slower or faster.

A safe railroad crossing like the example shown in the picture can be built. This works by restricting access to the tracks when an oncoming train has the rails reserved. When the player is on the rails, the signals are reserved by the [[circuit network]], and the train must stop and wait until the player leaves the tracks. When a player is inside the area crossing the tracks, the train gates are closed so the player can't get on the tracks outside the crossing. This is to completely ensure a safe crossing, and is often used on servers.

{{clear}}

== Trains ==
Train components:

{| class="wikitable"
|{{Imagelink|Locomotive}} || {{Imagelink|Cargo wagon}} || {{Imagelink|Fluid wagon}} || {{Imagelink|Artillery wagon}}
|}

[[File:Railway-assemble-train.png|thumb|left|300px|Placing a [[Cargo wagon]] so it is attached to the train.]]

* A train consists of at least one locomotive.
* Trains can have more than one locomotive, and any number of [[Wagon]]s.
* Locomotives can be '''manually''' driven forwards or backwards, however, they are generally slower going backwards. The left and right movement keys are used to change direction at switches.
* Trains can only drive forwards automatically. An automatic train can drive forwards and backwards when two locomotives facing different directions are connected to the train.
* A train needs [[fuel]] to drive. Fuel can be added by inserters when the train is in manual mode or parked at a station, not when waiting at a signal or standing on automatic mode.

The locomotives' inventory is only used for [[fuel]]. To transport items or fluids [[cargo wagon]]s and/or [[fluid wagon]]s have to be attached to the train. To attach rolling stock, whether a wagon or a locomotive, the player may either prepare to place one near an existing train, where a green graphic will show the player that the stock will be attached, showing a connection between the train and the new stock. Alternatively, the player may manually connect rolling stock to trains with the rolling stock connect key, if the cargo wagon was placed far away from a train. Rolling stock can likewise be disconnected with the rolling stock disconnect key. The cargo wagons can be filled or emptied manually or by up to twelve adjacent [[Inserters]] (six on each side), while fluid wagons can be filled or emptied with up to three [[pump]]s, which will automatically connect to the nipples on top.

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== Stations ==
[[File:station-example-1.png|thumb|right|256px|A very minimal train station.]]
Station Components:
{| class="wikitable"
|{{Imagelink|Train stop}} || {{Imagelink|Straight rail|Rail|Rails}} || {{Imagelink|Inserter|Inserters}} or {{Imagelink|pump|pump|Pumps}}
|}

A '''train station''' is a combination of at least one [[train stop]] plus a [[storage]] and/or distribution system, used to fill or empty [[cargo wagon]]s and/or [[fluid wagon]]s, load [[fuel]] into the [[Locomotive|locomotive(s)]], load ammunition into [[artillery wagon]]s, or repair trains.

'''Don't mix up ''train stations'' with ''train stops''.''' A train station is a concept, whereas a [[train stop]] is an item.

[[Inserter]]s placed next to train tracks are used to load/unload trains at train stops. Inserters are the only way to automatically get items out of and into cargo and artillery wagons; pumps are the only way to automatically get fluids into and out of fluid wagons.

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== Signals ==
The two types of signals in Factorio:
{| class="wikitable"
| {{Imagelink|Rail signal}} || {{Imagelink|Rail chain signal}}
|}

Understanding rail signals can be difficult. Several terms critical to understanding them are below:
*Rail segment
: A piece of track (one item).
*Segment
: A single path of continuous track without intersections or switches. This becomes important when signals are employed. The player may mouse over a segment to see its number. Its number is unique within the world, however it does not start from 0 or 1.
*Block
: A set of segments defined by rail signals. By default every connected segment belongs to one block, no matter whether a train can drive on it or not, and even if it can be driven only in one direction (e.g. at a switch, both segments of the switch belong to the same block). The blocks are shown as colored lines on the rails when the player holds a rail or rail chain signal.

Rail signals are used to employ multiple trains automatically. Note that driving a train manually ignores most of the rules described here; other automatic trains will follow signaling indicted by the player's movement dynamically, however it will sometimes be not possible to avoid a collision for automatic trains if the player ignores red/yellow signals. Always beware automatic trains and give them the right of way.

'''See [https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3811#p28310 this forum post]''' for a good explanation about blocks.

=== Basic Signaling Rules ===
* There can only be one train in a block at any time. A train spanning multiple blocks occupies them all.
* A red signal means that the following block is occupied by a train.
* A yellow signal means that a train is approaching and already has the approval to enter the following block.
* [[Rail signal]]s separate a new block and reflect its state: green - free, yellow - reserved, red - occupied
* [[Rail chain signal]]s separate a new block and reflect the state of the next [[Rail signal]](s): see above, blue - at least one of the paths is blocked, but not all
* A train can only pass a signal on the right of the track, or if there is a signal on both sides on the same rail segment. Of course, manual driving overrides this.

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== Deadlocks ==
A deadlock or gridlock can happen when every train is locked by another. In nearly every case two or more trains are standing so that every train blocks (by minimum) one other train.

=== Deadlock occurrence ===
Deadlocks occur when two or more trains are prevented from continuing through an intersection, due to an unsolvable signal conflict. There are a few different types of deadlocks:

# Temporary – These are caused by a temporary hiccup in a train's path, such as a loading train being in the way, or created by closing a signal with the [[circuit network]]. These often resolve themselves.
# Semi-permanent – These are the result of a problem with pathing, often created by a fuel-less train or broken rail, and may require player interaction to resolve, or (in the case of broken rails) may be corrected automatically by construction robots.
# Permanent – This type is the worst, and cannot be resolved automatically, often requiring the player to manually drive several trains to get them out of the intersection. These often are caused by incorrect signal placement or unreachable stations.

It's important to remember that deadlocks can happen by chance, and by mistake of the player. Sometimes even perfectly signaled rails have issues. The rate of deadlocks is inversely proportional to the quality of signaling, however.

=== Factors that influence the deadlock chance ===
* Train length (shorter trains will have a lower chance with the same rail/signal layout, due to having less effect on the rails they're on.)
* Size of the blocks: More space for the blocks means lower chance of deadlock.
* Track layout: Some layouts have a higher chance of locking than others.
* Quantity of trains - More trains trying to use an intersection will result in higher chance of deadlock.
* The chance is also much higher if trains need to wait often in areas with rail-crossings.

Knowing the factors, how can deadlocks be reduced?

* Don't use 4-way junctions or roundabouts (circles) to create junctions.
* Use better 3-way junctions. See [http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9044 A Detailed Look at a Bidirectional Three-way Train Intersection]
* Use roundabouts only for changing direction of train, and never for high traffic intersections.
* Build more tracks around junctions. Don't have one junction be the only way to reach a place, add redundancy. This keeps a small problem a small problem.

== Automated transport ==
[[File:train-schedule-gui.png|thumb|300px|The scheduale tab in the train GUI: 1 - switch between automatic and manual driving mode; 2 - add new train station; 3 - delete selected station; 4 - send train to selected station; 5 - add wait condition for selected station; 6 - delete selected wait condition; 7 - change logical mode of selected wait condition]]

Trains set on "Automatic" choose their destination stop and route on departure, and after waiting at a chain signal for five seconds, and when their destination stop disables itself by circuit condition. They choose the shortest route using a [[Railway/Train_path_finding|path finding algorithm]] that will get them to an enabled train stop with the right name, taking penalties for any apparent-at-the-time delays into account. If no such train stop exists they will skip the stop and go on to the next.

This section covers items used to make trains automatically transport items between stations. The player should be familiar with creating a rail system.

First, the player has to setup a rail system with at least two train stops, which are placed in the right-hand side of the expected train arrival direction. By hovering over the train stop with the mouse you see the positions of the vehicles for better setting up the train station (including (un)loading machinery, refueling/repair installations).

When you set up the train schedule (see below) and fuel the train, you can start the train on it's schedule by switching from manual to automatic driving mode.

=== Train schedule ===
The player can set up a list of train stations in the upper window. The train will route to stops in the given order, if it's at the end it will continue with the first. Currently, it's not possible to make a one-time schedule. Stations can be added by clicking button 2 (see picture). A pop-up appears with a list of all stop names. If you select one, another pop-up appears for you to select a wait condition.

Wait conditions are used to tell the train when to leave the station. There are 7 types of wait conditions:
* '''Time passed'''
* '''Inventory full''' – All inventories of the train are full.
* '''Inventory empty''' – Same as above, but empty.
* '''Item count''' – The train (all cargoes summed) contains a specific amount of a certain item.
* '''Circuit condition''' – The train stop is connectable to the [[Circuit network]], so the signals can used for wait conditions.
* '''Inactivity''' – No items were added or removed for the specified amount of seconds.
* '''Fluid count''' – The train (all fluid wagons summed) contains a specific amount of a certain fluid.

Hereafter the word "term" is used to describe ''one'' type of wait condition, and the words "wait condition" are used to describe the whole set of terms (it turns a bit into maths).

If you add more than one term, you can change the connection of those using the logical operators AND and OR (button 7). An AND condition will result in true if all terms are true. An OR condition will return true if at least one of the terms is true.

When mixing AND and OR terms, the logic is grouped by the OR terms. When evaluating the wait condition, the first term is evaluated along with all AND terms immediately following up to but excluding the next occurring OR term. If they all evaluate true, the wait condition evaluates true. Otherwise, evaluation continues with that next occurring OR term and all AND terms immediately following it, up to the next OR term. This continues until either an OR group evaluates true and the wait condition is satisfied, or all terms have been checked.

==== Examples ====
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:800px">
Expand for examples
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
Wait until full, up to 30 seconds:

<pre>
Full cargo inventory
OR 30 seconds passed
</pre>

Wait until cargo full, ''or'' circuit condition Oil > 3000:

<pre>
Full cargo inventory
OR Circuit condition - Oil > 3000
</pre>

Wait until empty, ''and'' 30 seconds passed, ''and'' 5 seconds of inactivity:

<pre>
Empty cargo inventory
AND 30 seconds passed
AND 5 seconds of inactivity
</pre>

Wait until iron ore is low, ''or'' copper ore is low ''and'' at least 30 seconds passed:

<pre>
Cargo: Iron ore < 500
AND 30 seconds passed
OR Cargo: Copper ore < 500
AND 30 seconds passed
</pre>

Factorio's wait condition logic is read as disjunctive normal form ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disjunctive_normal_form DNF]), and so this last example is processed as (note the parenthesis):

<pre>((Cargo: Iron ore < 500 AND 30 seconds passed) OR (Cargo: Copper ore < 500 AND 30 seconds passed))</pre>

Which is the same as this:

<pre>((Cargo: Iron ore < 500 OR Cargo: Copper ore < 500) AND 30 seconds passed)</pre>

Unfortunately, there is no way to write that shorter form in the current UI.
</div></div>

=== Troubleshooting ===

Below are some things to verify if a rail system or train is not working.

* Is the train fueled? Ensure that the locomotive has [[fuel]] of some kind.
* Misplaced or non-functional switches? Ensure that the train can plan a path through the switches.
* Another train on the same [[Railway#Segment|segment]] or [[Railway#Block|block]]? Make sure the path of the train is unobstructed.
* Train stops placed correctly? Make sure that the yellow arrows when hovering on the stop point towards the end or exit of the stop.
* Is the train allowed to enter signals from the right direction? Are the signals set correctly?
* If a track is supposed to be two-way, the rail signals should be opposite each other. You can verify they match up by hovering the cursor over one. For a matched pair, it will show the other.

==== No path ====
When trains cannot reach the target, a "no path" symbol pops up over the locomotive. Check:
* Can the train reach its current destination by '''only driving forward'''? Build turning slopes or place a locomotive at both ends of a train!
* Are the train stops standing in the right direction? Train stops must be on the right hand side of the track.
* If you use rail signals, check that the signals are all allowing traffic in the correct direction.
* Check for interruptions in the train tracks, drive to the station manually to check there are no rail parts missing. Especially near junctions these can be hard to spot if missing.

If you are still having problems, consider:
* Driving the train manually, and as you pass each switch, try switching to automatic. When it works, you will know the rough area of the problem.
[http://imgur.com/a/Nq2Yk A pictorial summary of typical problems].



== Achievements ==
{{Achievement|trans-factorio-express}}

== Connection to [http://www.openttd.org/ OpenTTD] ==
Factorio's railway system works basically exactly like [http://wiki.openttd.org/Signals#Block_signals≈ the block signals in Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe]. Players who have ever played that game will find some elements of it in Factorio. If not, they can learn from the OpenTTD documentation.

== See also ==
* [[Locomotive]]
* [[Cargo wagon]]

Laser turret

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Arrkhal: If specific info isn't useful, then general info must not be, either

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Laser turret}}

Laser turrets are an advanced defense building with a longer range, infinite ammo, good damage and use [[Electric system|electricity]] to operate (and a smaller amount of energy when idle). By dealing '''laser damage''' they don't face any resistances ([[enemies]] receive full damage) but have a lower rate of fire than gun turrets. Each shot costs a constant 800kJ of energy; as the shooting speed increases through upgrades, so too does the power required to keep firing.

== Achievements ==
{{Achievement|raining-bullets}}

== History ==
{{history|0.15.0|
*Laser turret projectiles move much faster}}

{{history|0.12.0|
*All turrets now have a 2x2 footprint
*Made 4x as powerful and expensive.}}

{{history|0.9.3|
*Can now be researched in the [[Campaign|New hope Campaign level 4]].}}

{{history|0.9.0|
*Change to recipe.}}

{{history|0.7.1|
*Decreased resting energy consumption of laser turret to 1/3 of original value.}}

{{history|0.7.0|
*Added upgrade technologies.}}

{{history|0.3.0|
*New graphics}}

{{history|0.1.0|
*Introduced}}

== See also ==

[[File:laser turret rotating.gif|thumb|A gif of the laser turret rotating.]]

* [[Gun turret]]
* [[Flamethrower turret]]

{{CombatNav}}
{{C|Defense}}

Laser turret

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Arrkhal:

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Laser turret}}

Laser turrets are an advanced defense building with a longer range, infinite ammo, good damage and use [[Electric system|electricity]] to operate (and a smaller amount of energy when idle). By dealing '''laser damage''' they don't face any resistances ([[enemies]] receive full damage) but have a lower rate of fire than gun turrets. Each shot costs a constant 800kJ of energy; as the shooting speed increases through upgrades, so too does the power required to keep firing.

Using laser turrets to ward off attacks can cause electricity usage spikes, so [[accumulator|accumulators]] (or [[Storage_tank#Usage_as_.22Energy-tank.22|steam storage]] and excess turbines) can be used to offset the spikes to keep the rest of the network fully functional. 8 accumulators is enough to fully power 1 laser turret for 50 shots, and 8 steam engines is enough to power 3 laser turrets, with a full storage tank of 165° steam providing enough energy for 937.5 shots total.

== Achievements ==
{{Achievement|raining-bullets}}

== History ==
{{history|0.15.0|
*Laser turret projectiles move much faster}}

{{history|0.12.0|
*All turrets now have a 2x2 footprint
*Made 4x as powerful and expensive.}}

{{history|0.9.3|
*Can now be researched in the [[Campaign|New hope Campaign level 4]].}}

{{history|0.9.0|
*Change to recipe.}}

{{history|0.7.1|
*Decreased resting energy consumption of laser turret to 1/3 of original value.}}

{{history|0.7.0|
*Added upgrade technologies.}}

{{history|0.3.0|
*New graphics}}

{{history|0.1.0|
*Introduced}}

== See also ==

[[File:laser turret rotating.gif|thumb|A gif of the laser turret rotating.]]

* [[Gun turret]]
* [[Flamethrower turret]]

{{CombatNav}}
{{C|Defense}}

Shotgun

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Arrkhal: Current SMG only does 50 dps

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Shotgun}}

A basic but powerful weapon with good range, damage, and ammo efficiency, but low rate of fire. Fires in spread pattern. The shotgun will fire without hostile targets nearby, can damage walls (it won't shoot over them) and friendly turrets, thus requiring significantly more caution when used, compared to most other weapons.

The Shotgun is the earliest weapon capable of seriously assaulting Biter [[Enemies#Spawners|nests]]. The weapon's starting damage can pierce nest armor (12x5 vs. 2) and destroy them with moderate difficulty. Shotgun ammo represents a massive boost on resource efficiency, with 2 copper and 2 iron giving a stack of shells worth 600 raw damage. Contrast this against the pistol ammo, which costs 4 iron for 50 raw damage. These traits make the shotgun user friendly for sustained assaults against biter nests.

The shotgun is less effective in clearing out the biters themselves, because pellet spread will cause a nontrivial fraction of pellets to miss against small targets. Players can switch between the shotgun and SMG to balance power and resource-efficiency, or support themselves with covering fire from [[Turret]]s and [[Defender_capsule|combat bots]].

== History ==

{{history|0.1.0|
* Introduced }}

==See also==
* [[Combat shotgun]]
* [[Damage|Damage & resistances]]
* [[Enemies]]

{{CombatNav}}
{{C|Weapons}}

Shotgun

2018-07-08T23:36:53Z

Arrkhal:

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Shotgun}}

A basic but powerful weapon with good range, damage, and ammo efficiency, but low rate of fire. Fires in spread pattern. The shotgun will fire without hostile targets nearby, can damage walls (it won't shoot over them) and friendly turrets, thus requiring significantly more caution when used, compared to most other weapons.

The Shotgun is the earliest weapon capable of seriously assaulting Biter [[Enemies#Spawners|nests]]. The weapon's starting damage can pierce nest armor (12x5 vs. 2) and destroy them with moderate difficulty. Shotgun ammo represents a massive boost on resource efficiency, with 2 copper and 2 iron giving a stack of shells worth 600 raw damage. Contrast this against the pistol ammo, which costs 4 iron for 50 raw damage. These traits make the shotgun user friendly for sustained assaults against biter nests.

The shotgun is less effective in clearing out the biters themselves, sporting a lower damage output (60 damage/second theoretical maximum, assuming all pellets hit. lower in practice because pellet spread will cause a nontrivial fraction of pellets to miss against small targets) compared to the [[Submachine_gun|Submachine gun]]'s guaranteed 75 damage/second. Players can switch between both weapons to balance power and resource-efficiency, or support themselves with covering fire from [[Turret]]s and [[Defender_capsule|combat bots]].

== History ==

{{history|0.1.0|
* Introduced }}

==See also==
* [[Combat shotgun]]
* [[Damage|Damage & resistances]]
* [[Enemies]]

{{CombatNav}}
{{C|Weapons}}

Shotgun

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Arrkhal:

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Shotgun}}

A basic but powerful weapon with good range, damage, and ammo efficiency, but low rate of fire. Fires in spread pattern. The shotgun can damage walls (it won't shoot over them) and friendly turrets, thus requiring significantly more caution when used, compared to the submachine gun.

The Shotgun is the earliest weapon capable of seriously assaulting Biter [[Enemies#Spawners|nests]]. The weapon's starting damage can pierce nest armor (12x5 vs. 2) and destroy them with moderate difficulty. Shotgun ammo represents a massive boost on resource efficiency, with 2 copper and 2 iron giving a stack of shells worth 600 raw damage. Contrast this against the pistol ammo, which costs 4 iron for 50 raw damage. These traits make the shotgun user friendly for sustained assaults against biter nests.

The shotgun is less effective in clearing out the biters themselves, sporting a lower damage output (60 damage/second theoretical maximum, assuming all pellets hit. lower in practice because pellet spread will cause a nontrivial fraction of pellets to miss against small targets) compared to the [[Submachine_gun|Submachine gun]]'s guaranteed 75 damage/second. Players can switch between both weapons to balance power and resource-efficiency, or support themselves with covering fire from [[Turret]]s and [[Defender_capsule|combat bots]].

== History ==

{{history|0.1.0|
* Introduced }}

==See also==
* [[Combat shotgun]]
* [[Damage|Damage & resistances]]
* [[Enemies]]

{{CombatNav}}
{{C|Weapons}}

Car

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Arrkhal:

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Car}}

[[File:car-anim.gif|thumb|256px]]
[[File:carcolor.png|thumb|right|200px|In multiplayer, the car matches the color of the player inside.]]

The '''car''' is the earliest alternate form of transportation available to the player. Although it requires fuel, driving a car is much faster than running, letting the player scout out areas or outmaneuver [[Enemies#Biters|biters]]. Cars have a vehicle machine gun that has a 50% higher rate of fire and can fire two tiles farther than the [[submachine gun]], 80 slots of storage and 450 health, letting the player use hit-and-run tactics against small groups of enemies.

Cars can collide with objects. Both the car and the object collided with may take damage. The damage is dependent on the speed of the car and the health of the target; small biters and trees can be safely rammed but colliding with big biters can easily destroy the vehicle and its contents.

In multiplayer it is possible for a player to enter a car alongside another player. The passenger can take control of the weapons of the car using a switch in the GUI of the car, but cannot steer the car.

== Controls ==
{{Main|Keyboard bindings}}

Accelerating opposite of the velocity of the car will cause it to brake. Held acceleration controls won't have any effect after a brake. The faster the car is going, the longer distance it will take to brake.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Action !! Non-vehicle control !! Default binding
|-
|Enter/exit vehicle || Enter/Leave vehicle || Return (AKA Enter, carriage return, etc)
|-
|Accelerate forward || Move up || W key
|-
|Accelerate backwards || Move down || S key
|-
|Steer right || Move right || D key
|-
|Steer left || Move left || A key
|-
|}

== Using cars as storage ==
Cars can store a tremendous amount of items, move along [[transport belt]]s and interact with [[inserter]]s. Because of that, cars may be used as large chests or even [http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8805 as small trains].

== Achievements ==
{{Achievement|steamrolled}}
{{Achievement|run-forrest-run}}

== History ==

{{history|0.16.0|
* In multiplayer players can now ride as passengers in cars/tanks.
}}

{{history|0.14.0|
* Added support for equipment grids in cars.
}}

{{history|0.12.26|
* Running into biters in peaceful mode will anger them.
}}

{{history|0.12.2|
* Added filters to the car cargo inventory.
}}

{{history|0.12.0|
* Car ammo inventory is refilled from the trunk when depleted.
}}

{{history|0.11.12|
* Gates now open in time for the car to pass through.
}}

{{history|0.11.8|
* The car can now accepts fuel and ammo by inserter or shift/control click even when the burner/ammo slots are already full. The extra fuel and ammo will go into the trunk.
}}

{{history|0.11.6|
* New graphics of car
}}

{{history|0.11.0|
* Cars collide with objects
* Disabled shooting from the car, however capsules can still be used
}}

{{history|0.7.2|
* Smoother car acceleration and braking
* Sound effects for cars
}}

{{history|0.9.0|
* Changed the recipe a little
}}

{{history|0.7.2|
* Added a low graphics option for the car
}}

{{history|0.7.0|
* Decreased the car health from 2000 to 500.
}}

{{history|0.6.0|
* New car graphics ([http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/3087 old])
}}

{{history|0.4.0|
* Car shows the "out of fuel" icon when out of fuel
* Car is now mine-able
* Made driving easier
}}

{{history|0.2.8|
* Health bar of car is now shown.
}}

{{history|0.1.0|
* Introduced}}

== See also ==
* [[Railway]]

{{LogisticsNav}}
{{C|Transport}}

Pollution

2018-07-07T22:57:44Z

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{{languages}}
[[File:Pollution.png|400px|thumb|Example of in-game pollution (red squares) in the map]]

Pollution is represented as an abstract "cloud", updated [[Chunk|per chunk]] every game second (60 ticks) and visible on the map, when "alt-view" is on (default [[Keyboard bindings|Alt-Key]]). It appears as a red colored blocky cloud.

It is produced by many buildings involved in processing items and spreads outwards at a steady rate.

The [[Enemies#Evolution|evolution factor]] is not increased by the spreading/absorbed pollution, but by the pollution produced by all the player's [[Pollution#Polluters|machinery]] at every tick. This means that no matter how hard the player tries to contain the pollution, [[enemies]] will still evolve at the same rate. They just won't attack the player as frequently. The pollution cloud is used to trigger biter attacks and determines the size of the attacks.

== Pollution spread ==

As soon as a chunk has reached 15.0 pollution it starts spreading in all four cardinal directions at a rate of 2% per [[game-second]] (60 ticks).

For example, a chunk with 400.0 pollution and 4 adjacent chunks with 100.0 pollution each, raises the pollution in all adjacent chunks by 8.0 while reducing its own pollution by 32.0. But every one of the 4 surrounding spreads 2.0 pollution "back" to the center chunk, so it only loses 24.0 + [[Pollution#De-polluters|absorbed value]].

== Pollution dissipation==

* Every [[chunk]] (32x32) of map slowly reduces the pollution it covers (See [[Pollution#Chunks]]). So the more the pollution spreads, the more is absorbed.
* [[Tree]]s also absorb some pollution (See [[Pollution#Trees]]).
* [[Enemies#Spawner|Spawners]] absorb a great amount of pollution, and use this to produce enemies.

== Native life ==
Pollution attracts [[Enemies|biters]] to the Player's factory. Biters who find themselves in a polluted area will attempt to reach the source of pollution and destroy it.

Each [[Enemies|spawner]] absorbs 20 + 0.01 * [chunk's pollution] every game second (60 ticks) if the chunk's pollution is greater than 20. If there is 20 or less pollution in the chunk, the spawner absorbs all the pollution.

Higher pollution values decrease the time it takes for biters to join the attack force. After a certain amount of pollution is absorbed the spawner sends one of its biters/spitters to a rendezvous point. Every 1 to 10 minutes (random) the mustered biters launch an attack. If not all biters have arrived at the rendezvous point by that time, they will wait up to an additional 2 minutes for stragglers.

Required pollution to add an additional biter/spitter to the attack wave:
{| class="wikitable"
! Pollution !! Type
|-
|200 || Small biter
|-
|1000 || Medium biter
|-
|4000 || Big biter
|-
|20000 || Behemoth biter
|-
|200 || Small spitter
|-
|600 || Medium spitter
|-
|1500 || Big spitter
|-
|10000 || Behemoth spitter
|-
|}

With 1350 absorbed pollution at the time of attack the following wave consists of 6 small biters and 1 medium biter OR 6 small spitters and 2 medium spitters depending on the spawner's type and [[Enemies#Spawn_chances_by_evolution_factor|evolution factor]].

== Modules ==
[[Module]]s that list "+x% pollution" increase pollution multiplier, not a flat pollution rate. Final pollution value is (pollution multiplier * energy usage multiplier * base pollution), meaning heavily boosted buildings are likely to account for most of the pollution produced in a factory.

== Production/Absorption ==
These tables contain information about the levels of pollution produced/absorbed by items in the game.
=== Polluters ===
{| class="wikitable"
| '''Object''' || '''Pollution per KW per game second (60 ticks)''' || '''Pollution per game second at full power'''
|-
| {{Imagelink|Stone furnace}} || 0.01/KW || 1.8
|-
| {{Imagelink|Steel furnace}} || 0.02/KW || 3.6
|-
| {{Imagelink|Electric furnace}} || 0.005/KW || 0.9
|-
| {{Imagelink|Burner mining drill}} || 0.03333/KW || 10
|-
| {{Imagelink|Electric mining drill}} || 0.1/KW || 9
|-
| {{imagelink|Pumpjack}} || 0.1/KW || 9
|-
| {{Imagelink|Assembling machine 1}} || 0.03333/KW || 3
|-
| {{Imagelink|Assembling machine 2}} || 0.016/KW || 2.4
|-
| {{Imagelink|Assembling machine 3}} || 0.00857/KW || 1.8
|-
| {{Imagelink|Pump}} || 0.004/KW || 0.12
|-
| {{imagelink|Boiler}} || 0.01538/KW || 27.6923
|-
| {{Imagelink|Oil refinery}} || 0.00857/KW || 3.6
|-
| {{Imagelink|Chemical plant}} || 0.00857/KW || 1.8
|-
| {{Imagelink|Centrifuge}} || 0.016/KW || 5.6
|-
|}

Fire on the ground and burning trees produce 0.005 pollution per tick.

=== De-polluters ===

==== Spawner ====
If a chunk's pollution is greater than 20, each enemy spawner absorbs 20 + 0.01 * [chunk's pollution] every game second (60 ticks), otherwise it absorbs the chunk's total pollution.

==== Chunks ====
Every chunk has a natural absorption rate per tick which is determined by the weighted average of its floor tiles.

Following numbers are the pollution reduction for a full chunk (32x32 tiles) composed of the same floor tiles per tick.
{| class="wikitable"
! Tile !! Pollution per tick !! Pollution per second
|-
|Grass 1, Grass 2 || -0.00045|| -0.027
|-
|Grass 3, Grass 4 || -0.0004|| -0.024
|-
|Dry dirt, Dirt 1-7 || -0.00045|| -0.027
|-
|Sand 1, Sand 2 || -0.00025|| -0.015
|-
|Sand 3 || -0.0002|| -0.012
|-
|Red desert 0-2 || -0.00045|| -0.027
|-
|Red desert 3 || -0.0004|| -0.024
|-
|Green water || -0.0005 || -0.03
|-
|Deep green water || -0.0005 || -0.03
|-
|Water || -0.0006 || -0.036
|-
|Deep water || -0.0006 || -0.036
|-
|Path tiles (Stone bricks, concrete etc) || 0.0 || 0.0
|-
|}

==== Trees ====
Every single tree absorbs a small amount of pollution in its chunk per tick. After absorbing more than 3500 units of pollution, trees start to lose their leaves, absorbing pollution in the process. The less dense the leaves, the less pollution the tree absorbs. The initial leaf density is influenced by the richness settings during map generation. The higher the richness, the higher the overall leaf density.

{| class="wikitable"
! Object !! Stage !! Pollution per tick !! Pollution per second
|-
| rowspan="4" | [[File:Green tree.png|120px]] Tree, red tree, brown tree || 0 (Max leaf density) || -0.001 || -0.06
|-
| 1 || -0.00067 || -0.04
|-
| 2 || -0.00033 || -0.02
|-
| 3 (Min leaf density) || 0 || 0
|-
| [[File:Dead dry hairy tree.png|120px]] Dead dry hairy tree || No stages || -0.0001 || -0.006
|-
| [[File:Dead grey trunk.png|120px]] Dead grey trunk || No stages || -0.0001 || -0.006
|-
| [[File:Dead tree desert.png|120px]] Dead tree - desert|| No stages || -0.0001 || -0.006
|-
| [[File:Dry hairy tree.png|120px]] Dry hairy tree || No stages || -0.0001 || -0.006
|-
| [[File:Dry tree.png|120px]] Dry tree || No stages || -0.0001 || -0.006
|-
|}

== Achievements ==
Pollution is directly connected to the following achievement:
{{Achievement|it-stinks-and-they-dont-like-it}}

== History ==

{{history|0.13.2|
* Optimized rendering of huge pollution clouds on the map.}}

{{history|0.13.0|
* Large amounts of pollution is created when burning fires.
* Pollution creation of the productivity module was reduced drastically.
* Optimized pollution rendering on map and minimap.
}}

{{history|0.12.0|
* [[Tree]]s degenerate slowly when exposed to pollution at high levels. }}

{{history|0.8.0|
* Added option to turn off pollution visibility even when detailed info is on. }}

{{history|0.7.1|
* Speed modules no longer produce extra pollution.
* Added missing pollution descriptions.
* Pollution is only shown on the minimap with alt mode on.
}}

{{history|0.7.0|
* Introduced concept of pollution.}}

== See also ==
* [[Crafting]]
* [[Module]]s
* [[Enemies]]

Map generator

2018-07-07T22:56:20Z

Arrkhal: /* Starting area */ clarification

{{Languages}}
[[File:Default_123456789.png|thumb|right|An example how the world generator might create a new map: Default settings with map seed 123456789]]
World generation is the procedure by which the in game landscape is generated. In short: a number of settings, editable at the start of a new world, define what that world will look like. This can dramatically alter gameplay — a new player is advised to start with the default settings before deciding to change their world.
__TOC__{{Clear}}
== Map generation presets ==
[[File:MapGeneratorOverview.png|thumb|right|500px|Overview of the map generation screen]]
A preset may be chosen instead of manually configuring the generation.
=== Default ===
Normal settings.

All terrain and resource settings set to regular/normal/medium.

==== Advanced settings ====
All settings are set to their defaults:

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Pollution !! Default !! !! Evolution !! Default
|-
| Absorbed per damaged tree || 500 || || Enabled || Yes
|-
| Diffusion ratio || 2% || || Time factor || 0.00000400
|-
| Dissipation rate || 1 || || Destroy factor || 0.00200000
|-
| Enabled || Yes || || Pollution factor || 0.00001500
|-
| Minimum damage to trees || 3500
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Enemy expansion !! Default !! !! Recipes/Technology !! Default
|-
| Enabled || Yes || || Recipe difficulty || Normal
|-
| Maximum expansion distance || 7 || || Technology difficulty || Normal
|-
| Minimum group size || 5 || || Technology price multiplier || 1
|-
| Maximum group size || 20
|-
| Minimum cooldown (Minutes) || 4
|-
| Maximum cooldown (Minutes) || 60
|-
|}

=== Rich resources ===
Resources patches have a larger richness, so you don't have to expand far.

Difference from default: Resources have very good richness instead of regular.

=== Marathon ===
Recipes and technologies are more expensive.

Difference from default: Expensive recipes and technology, technology price multiplier 4.

=== Death world ===
Biters are more dangerous and evolve faster.

Difference from default: Very high frequency and size enemy bases, small starting area, enemy evolution time factor and pollution factor are both set to 0.00002.

=== Death world marathon ===
Recipes and technologies are expensive and biters are dangerous and plentiful. Only select this if you are a Factorio veteran.

Combines "Marathon" and "Death world".

=== Rail world ===
Resource patches are large and spread far apart, to encourage train systems. Biters won't create any new bases or re-expand into cleared territory.

Difference from default: Coal, copper ore, iron ore, and stone are set to very low frequency and big size instead of normal/medium. Uranium ore and crude oil are set to low frequency and high size. Water has a very low frequency and a big size. The evolution time factor is set to 0.000002 and enemy expansion is disabled.

== Manual configuration ==
=== Basic settings ===
==== Peaceful mode ====
The [[enemies]] don't begin fights, only responding if the player hits them.

==== Enable replay ====
: ''{{Main|Replay system}}''
Record all the actions that the player(s) perform during the game, so that they can later be played back as essentially a timelapse of the save file.

==== Map-width and -height ====
If the player limits the width and/or height they may generate maps with finite resources and area. Another option is to make the world infinite in only one axis, this is commonly referred to as a ''ribbon world''.

==== Map seed ====

This is the starting value for the random number generator that Factorio uses for generating the world based on the generation settings. Know that 'random number' is really a misnomer in Factorio and on computers in general, as they aren't really random, instead being calculated with complicated algorithms that require a seed as starting value (For more detail, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_seed).

So even with the same map-exchange string but a different seed maps can change dramatically, or appear very similar. It's up to chance. In order to get a true copy of a world, giving the map exchange string and allowing the string to fill out the seed is important.

==== Map exchange string ====

A map exchange string generally looks like this:

>>>eNpjYBBg0GdgYGBm5mFJzk/MYWZm4UrOLyhILdLNL0plZmTmTC4q
TUnVzc/MYWFmZktJLU4tKmEGqkrJBNNcqXmpuZW6SYnFqUAea3pRYnE
xkMGRWZSfBzKBEai0ODEvBSRZXJKfB1TFyFpSlJoKUsVdWpSYl1maC7
aKhZmBMcvcibmhRY4BhP/XMxj8/w/CQNYFoBNBGORSBkagAAywJudkp
qUxMCg4gjAjI2O1yDr3h1VT7Bkh8noOUMYHqEjEbqjIg1YoI2I1lNFx
GMpwmA9j1MMY/Q6MxmDw2R7BgNhVAjQZagmHA4IBkWwBSTIy9r7duuD
7sQt2jH9Wfrzkm5Rgz5gpG+orUPreDijJDtTAyAQnZs0EgZ0wHzDAzH
xgD5W6ac949gwIvLFnZAXpEAERDhZA4oA3MHgE+ICsBT1AQkGGAeY0O
5gxIg6MaWDwDeaTxzDGZXt0f6g4MNqADJcDESdABNhCuMsYocxIB4iE
JEIWqNWIAdn6FITnTsJsPIxkNZobVGBuMHHA4gU0ERWkgOcC2ZMCJ14
wwx0BDMEL7DAeMG6ZGRDgg/3WD0/SAKZ2kr0=<<<

The map exchange string can be used to share all map generation settings between different players. The player can paste the string (using {{Keybinding|ctrl|V}}) into the map exchange string field and the game will set the generation settings to the settings saved in the string, resulting in a complete copy of the map when generated.

The map exchange string can be retrieved from save files by going into the load game screen, selecting the desired map, clicking the Map Exchange String button in the lower left corner and copying the string from the window that pops up.

For a technical description of the map exchange string, see [[map exchange string format]].

=== Resource and terrain settings ===
==== Frequency ====

For resources, frequency determines the frequency of ore/oil patches. The higher the frequency, the more patches can be found in a given area. Although the ore patches are of a smaller size, a higher frequency still results in more ore tiles being generated.

Frequency modifies the area of each deposit and the number of deposits. If resource frequency is increased, each of the deposits is smaller and has less resources in total (because it covers less area) and deposits are very common. If resource frequency is decreased, the deposits are larger but more rare.

Terrain, including enemy bases and trees, is affected in the same way: The higher the frequency, the more terrain "blobs"/nest clusters/forests can be found in a given area, while their sizes decrease with higher frequency.

Cliffs are affected in a similar way: The higher the frequency, the more cliffs can be found. However, the overall cliff area size increases with higher frequency, while the cliff "lines" are broken up more often, meaning that higher frequencies result in many big cliff blobs composed of short cliff "lines".

==== Size ====
For resources, the size setting adjusts the size of generated ore/oil patches.

It's as simple as it seems — Small size would means small ore/oil patches, large means large ore/oil patches, thus increasing the resource count in a given area. Note that ore/oil patch size is also affected by frequency.

[https://forums.factorio.com/55178 Due to a bug], enemy bases are currently not affected by the size setting. Their size can only be changed by changing their frequency.

The other terrain types, including water and trees, are affected the same way as resources.

[https://forums.factorio.com/54664 Due to a bug], the effect of the size setting on cliffs cannot be reliably predicted. Any size setting above small may lead to cliffs spawning in the starting area. Big and very big size seem to always spawn cliffs everywhere, while medium size and below may not spawn any cliffs.

The following table shows how the frequency and size settings affects the generation of ore patches. For more detail, open the images in a new tab.

{| class="wikitable"
|+Generation of iron patches on different frequency and size settings
!Frequency \ Size
!Very small
!Small
!Medium
!Big
!Very big

|-
!Very low
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_low_size_very_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_low_size_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_low_size_medium.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_low_size_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_low_size_very_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]

|-
!Low
|[[File:Iron_freq_low_size_very_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_low_size_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_low_size_medium.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_low_size_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_low_size_very_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]

|-
!Normal
|[[File:Iron_freq_normal_size_very_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_normal_size_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_normal_size_medium.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_normal_size_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_normal_size_very_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]

|-
!High
|[[File:Iron_freq_high_size_very_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_high_size_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_high_size_medium.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_high_size_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_high_size_very_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]

|-
!Very high
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_high_size_very_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_high_size_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_high_size_medium.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_high_size_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Iron_freq_very_high_size_very_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]

|}

===== Starting area =====

The starting are is a special area around the central coordinates of the map which has different ore, water and enemy generation, from the rest of the map. Generally, this results in at least one confirmed ore source each of [[coal]], [[iron ore]], [[copper ore]], and [[stone]], always results in a water source, and always removes biter nests from spawning for an area around spawn. [[Uranium ore]] and [[crude oil]] should not spawn in the starting area. Cliffs should not spawn in the starting area[https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-219], but due to [https://forums.factorio.com/54664 a bug] they may spawn there. The size of the starting area is adjusted by changing the size setting.

{| class="wikitable"
|+World generations on different starting area settings
!Very small
!Small
!Medium
!Big
!Very big

|-
|[[File:Starting_area_very_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Starting_area_small.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Starting_area_medium.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Starting_area_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|[[File:Starting_area_very_big.png|frameless|150x150px]]
|}

==== Richness ====

This defines the actual content of every ore patch and oil field. The higher the richness, the more ore or oil each resource tile contains. Resource field richness increases by distance.

For [[tree]]s, the richness setting changes the density of their leaves. The higher the richness, the higher their leaf density, the more pollution they absorb.[https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?p=366015#p366015]

For enemy bases, the richness setting does not have an effect.[https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/8pjscm/friday_facts_246_the_gui_update_part_3/e0bttnp/]

{| class="wikitable"
|+Resources in ore patches on different richness settings
!Very poor
!Poor
!Regular
!Rich
!Very rich

|-
|[[File:Iron_richness_very_poor.png]]
|[[File:Iron_richness_poor.png]]
|[[File:Iron_richness_regular.png]]
|[[File:Iron_richness_good.png]]
|[[File:Iron_richness_very_good.png]]

|}

=== Advanced settings ===
These settings do not affect world generation, instead they allow to change some constants related to the map in general.

==== Pollution ====
These settings allow to enable/disable [[pollution]] and further adjust it when keeping it enabled.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Setting !! Description
|-
| Diffusion ratio || The amount of pollution diffused into neighboring chunks per second.
|-
| Dissipation rate || Controls how fast pollution dissipates naturally.
|-
| Minimum to damage trees || Any pollution above this amount starts to damage trees.
|-
| Absorbed per damaged tree || The amount of pollution absorbed by a tree when it is damaged by pollution.
|}

==== Evolution ====
These settings allow to enable/disable [[evolution]] and further adjust it when keeping it enabled.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Setting !! Description
|-
| Time factor || Controls how fast evolution increases over time.
|-
| Destroy factor || Controls how fast evolution increases due to destroying enemy spawners.
|-
| Pollution factor || Controls how fast evolution increases due to producing pollution.
|}

==== Enemy expansion ====
These settings allow to enable/disable [[Enemies#Expansions|enemy expansion]] and further adjust it when keeping it enabled.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Setting !! Description
|-
| Maximum expansion distance || The maximum distance enemies will look to expand from other enemy bases.
|-
| Minimum group size || The minimum size of an enemy expansion party modified by the current evolution level.
|-
| Maximum group size || The maximum size of an enemy expansion party modified by the current evolution level.
|-
| Minimum cooldown || The minimum time between enemy expansions being sent out.
|-
| Maximum cooldown || The maximum time between enemy expansions being sent out.
|}

==== Recipes/Technology ====
This setting allows to change the [[Crafting#Recipe difficulties|recipe]]/technology difficulty and multiply the technology cost.

Currently, setting the technology difficulty does not have an effect in vanilla.

== Mechanics ==
=== Resource and terrain generation ===
The map generator (world generator) is based on a modified [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perlin_noise Perlin noise algorithm].
A [http://lua-api.factorio.com/latest/Concepts.html#AutoplaceSpecification more detailed description] can be found in the API documentation.

From the [https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8016&p=63691#p63561 article which describes the generation]:
: [[File:Factorio-Perlin-Noise.png]]
Top: Normal settings, Middle: The same, but with higher '''frequency''' (note the same curve, but more condensed shape), Down: Same as top, but higher level = increased '''size'''.

The blue wavy line is an internal noise function, black line is a "level" that is used to determine resource placement, red lines are actual placed resources. The high frequency refers mainly to the noise function. Increasing the frequency increases count of resource fields and decreases their size and distance between them. This mechanism is used all through the map generation in factorio, with some adjustments. The map generator works tile by tile, so the resources are placed on a tile x if f(x) > 0. The amount of resources on the tile is given by f(x) * richness.

=== Chunks ===

A map is endless by default, though its size can be limited by height and width — see above. Because it is technically endless, the whole map is not generated from the start. Instead, a new [[chunk]] of the map is generated only when needed, similar to other procedurally generated world games.

==== Invisible chunks (fog of war) ====

Outside of the visible chunk area, an invisible area of about 3 chunks wide is generated as a preloading mechanism. Enemies may be located inside these invisible chunks and can attack the player from there, while [[artillery turret]]s and [[artillery wagon|wagon]]s may automatically shoot enemy bases in these chunks if they are within their automatic range. Invisible chunks are also generated if pollution is generated heavily; the game generates (invisible) chunks as it needs to spread the pollution into the area.

==== Charting (removing fog of war) ====

As long as a chunk is invisible, the part of the players map stays black. This changes when a chunk is [[Radar#Charting|charted]], which means when it is "touched" by a radar. This can be either the player's internal radar, which is always available and continually charts chunks around the player, or the [[radar]] entity. If a far-away and thus ungenerated chunk is charted, it will be generated, together with the above-mentioned invisible 3 chunk radius of map around it.

==== Maximum map size and used memory ====

The map size is limited to 2,000 x 2,000 kilometers; internally, this is a square 2,000,000 tiles on a side, with an area of 4,000,000,000,000 (4 trillion) square tiles (assuming 1 tile = 1 meter on a side yields 2,000 x 2,000 km = 4 million square km). In real-world terms, this is between the sizes of India and Australia (or about 40% the area of the United States, or over 10 times the area of Germany). It would take around 200 [[game-second|game-minutes]] (ca 3.3 hours real time) to reach that border from the center when riding a [[locomotive|train]] fueled with [[rocket fuel|rocket]] or [[nuclear fuel]]. This makes the world essentially endless for practical purposes.

Because chunks are only generated in and close around the area revealed by radar, it is possible to reach that border without overloading your computer, as the size of the map in computer memory is dependent only on chunks actually generated. If only a narrow stripe of land is explored to far away, this remains manageable.

The generated chunks are fully mapped and stored in the player's RAM, which is the practical limiting factor of exploration.


== History ==

{{History|0.16.0|
* Added cliffs.
* New terrains and new terrain generation.
* Trees can now be configured in the generate-map GUI.
* Terrain can be configured in the generate map GUI.
* Biters scale less with distance and there are generally less biters.
* No uranium as a starting resource also no uranium is ever generated near the starting area, you need to go look for it.
}}

{{History|0.15.0|
* Extended map generator settings to include an advanced section.
* Added map generator presets.
* The map seed is used to generate unique maps instead of just shifting the starting position.
}}

{{History|0.13.7|
* Map size is now limited to 2000 km by 2000 km with a black bar rather than crashing when reaching this distance.
}}

{{History|0.13.0|
* Map generator algorithm changed, further resource field now have greater richness.
}}

== See also ==

* [https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7924&p=63517#p63517 Some technical info]
* [https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8624&p=69156#p69156 Temperature based biome-model] (how trees are placed)

Gun turret

2018-07-07T22:43:15Z

Arrkhal: typo

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Gun turret}}
Gun turrets are defensive structures and are the first automatic defense to be unlocked. They use magazines for ammunition which can be refilled manually or by [[inserters]]. Unlike [[laser turret]]s, they do not require power and can operate practically anywhere as long as they have sufficient ammunition. On the downside, this means that ammo must be periodically replenished.

Without upgrades, the gun turret has the same fire rate as the man-portable [[submachine gun]], doing equal damage per second. The gun turret receives bonuses from technologies that improve bullets so it keeps pace with the submachine gun as those improve, and they also receive bonuses from their own damage upgrade, potentially giving the turret a much higher DPS. These two infinitely-researchable damage effects stack multiplicatively.

== Gallery ==
<gallery widths=256px heights=256px>
File:Gun_turret_firing.gif|The gun turret firing at a target.
File:Gun_turret_rotating.gif|A rotating turret.
</gallery>

== History ==

{{history|0.12.0|
*All turrets now have a 2×2 footprint
*New graphics, color is now force-dependent
*Recipe is 2× more expensive.}}

{{history|0.8.4|
*Maximum of 10 [[Firearm magazine]]s can be put into the turret by inserters.}}

{{history|0.7.1|
*Gun turret damage upgrades
*Faster movement speed of Gun turret
*Range extended from 15 to 17.}}

{{history|0.3.0|
*New graphics
*Bullet particles for turret}}

{{history|0.2.7|
*Warning for ammo-less turret is shown.
*Contents of the turret's inventory visible in sidebar}}

{{history|0.1.0|
*Introduced}}

==See also==

* [[Laser turret]]
* [[Flamethrower turret]]

{{CombatNav}}
{{C|Defense}}

Gun turret

2018-07-07T21:05:41Z

Arrkhal: current SMG is 10/s base, same as the turret

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Gun turret}}
Gun turrets are defensive structures and are the first automatic defense to be unlocked. They use magazines for ammunition which can be refilled manually or by [[inserters]]. Unlike [[laser turret]]s, they do not require power and can operate practically anywhere as long as they have sufficient ammunition. On the downside, this means that ammo must be periodically replenished.

Without upgrades, the gun turret the same fire rate as the man-portable [[submachine gun]], doing equal damage per second. The gun turret receives bonuses from technologies that improve bullets so it keeps pace with the submachine gun as those improve, and they also receive bonuses from their own damage upgrade, potentially giving the turret a much higher DPS. These two infinitely-researchable damage effects stack multiplicatively.

== Gallery ==
<gallery widths=256px heights=256px>
File:Gun_turret_firing.gif|The gun turret firing at a target.
File:Gun_turret_rotating.gif|A rotating turret.
</gallery>

== History ==

{{history|0.12.0|
*All turrets now have a 2×2 footprint
*New graphics, color is now force-dependent
*Recipe is 2× more expensive.}}

{{history|0.8.4|
*Maximum of 10 [[Firearm magazine]]s can be put into the turret by inserters.}}

{{history|0.7.1|
*Gun turret damage upgrades
*Faster movement speed of Gun turret
*Range extended from 15 to 17.}}

{{history|0.3.0|
*New graphics
*Bullet particles for turret}}

{{history|0.2.7|
*Warning for ammo-less turret is shown.
*Contents of the turret's inventory visible in sidebar}}

{{history|0.1.0|
*Introduced}}

==See also==

* [[Laser turret]]
* [[Flamethrower turret]]

{{CombatNav}}
{{C|Defense}}

Infobox:Submachine gun

2018-07-07T21:03:17Z

Arrkhal: Current in-game infobox says 10/s + bonuses

{{infobox
|prototype-type = gun
|internal-name = submachine-gun
|expensive-total-raw = Time, 17.5 + Copper plate, 20 + Iron plate, 90
|expensive-recipe = Time, 10 + Copper plate, 20 + Iron gear wheel, 15 + Iron plate, 30
|category = Combat
|range =18
|shooting-speed =10{{Translation|/s}}
|stack-size = 5
|ammunition =firearm magazine + piercing rounds magazine + uranium rounds magazine
|recipe = Time, 10 + Copper plate, 5 + Iron gear wheel, 10 + Iron plate, 10
|total-raw = Time, 15 + Copper plate, 5 + Iron plate, 30
|required-technologies = Military
|boosting-technologies =bullet damage + bullet shooting speed
|producers =manual + assembling machine 2 + assembling machine 3
}}<noinclude>[[Category:Infobox page]]</noinclude>

Logistic science pack

2018-07-06T10:28:42Z

Arrkhal: Looks like a typo, should really only need 1 machine for that

{{Languages}}
{{:Infobox:Science pack 2}}

'''Science Pack 2''' (also referred to as "green science") is the second tier of [[science pack]]. It is used in [[lab]]s to [[research]] [[technologies]].

== Ratio ==

The following shows the minimum ratio of assemblers/machines and items required to produce Science pack 2 such that all number of assemblers/machines are whole numbers. Items per min is calculated using [[assembling machine 3]] with no [[module]]s or [[beacon]]s and all assemblers running at full speed. The crafting of some intermediate products are not shown (due to the assumption that these items are available in large quantities within the factory). This table was produced using normal recipe difficulty.

{| class="wikitable"
! Items/min !! Assemblers
|-
| {{Icon|Science pack 2|300}}
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: {{Icon|Assembling machine 3|24}}
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: {{Icon|Inserter|300}}
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: {{Icon|Assembling machine 3|2}}
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:: {{Icon|Iron plate|300}}
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|-
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:: {{Icon|Iron gear wheel|300}}
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: {{Icon|Assembling machine 3|2}}
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::: {{Icon|Iron plate|600}}
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|-
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:: {{Icon|Electronic circuit|300}}
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|-
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: {{Icon|Transport belt|300}}
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: {{Icon|Assembling machine 3|1}}
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:: {{Icon|Iron plate|150}}
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|-
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:: {{Icon|Iron gear wheel|150}}
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: {{Icon|Assembling machine 3|1}}
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::: {{Icon|Iron plate|300}}
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|}

== See also ==
* [[Research]]
* [[Science pack]]
* [[Technologies]]

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