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Talk:Transport belts

2016-10-24T11:58:05Z

AntiElite:

== To do: ==

Add
* belt direction, how to change it
* replacement,how to replace with faster belt type
::This is already part of the article in the "Placement" section
::[[User:AntiElite|AntiElite]] ([[User talk:AntiElite|talk]]) 11:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
== Deletion ==
I'm against the deletion of the Page. This Page was written by me and explains the mechanics of all the "transport belts" in detail. Each specific yellow, red and blue transport belt wiki page links to the "transport belts" page for more general Information about transport belt mechanics. The reason for Deletion is that it got merged into the page "Belt transport system". This Article is going to explain all of the core mechanics of belt's, underground Belt's and splitters at once. I can fill a long article with mechanics for each of them seperatly and merging everything into one page will end in a huge, messy article. If I want to know something about transport belt's in general, I don't want to read about splitters and underground belt first.

- AntiElite / AntiElitz — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AntiElite|AntiElite]] ([[User talk:AntiElite|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AntiElite|contribs]]) 02:47, 25 April 2016‎ (UTC)
:I would suggest using [[Belt transport system]] as a general overview of belts, underground belts, and splitters. And have each section link to a more detailed article of each type (ala ''Main page: [[Transport belts]]''). --[[User:Artorp|Artorp]] ([[User talk:Artorp|talk]]) 14:43, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
:: I would like to second [[User:Artorp|Artorp's]] suggestion. I feel like [[Belt transport system]] is much more useful as an overview with links to each piece broken down into more detail. I was looking for information the other day in that section, and having to dig through all the information for one specific thing was a little overwhelming. --[[User:Maelstrominabox|Maelstrominabox]] ([[User talk:Maelstrominabox|talk]]) 18:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

== Adding Balancer References ==
I wanted to add some more balancer designs for balancing multiple belts, in addition to the two single-belt designs. However, as Factorio is a game about designing your own factories, I am hesitant to do this, as it might result in a "this is the way that x is done" mentality. Please advise. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlanderwolf|Highlanderwolf]] ([[User talk:Highlanderwolf|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Highlanderwolf|contribs]]) 19:58, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
:We don't have standards for this yet, my advice would be not to add too many designs, and definitely don't add designs because you think they look cool or you're proud of it, only useful ones. I also wouldn't go about posting large designs, instead post small sections of a bigger design like the two already posted in the balancing section.
:On a different note, when posting a comment on a talk page like you just did, please make sure to put 4 tildes after your post (Example: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>), this will create a signature and timestamp so people know who asked the question or who posted the reply, comment or answer.
: [[User:TheWombatGuru|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru|talk]]) - Factorio wiki administrator 18:23, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

:IMO lane balancers should be part of the splitters wiki page
:[[User:AntiElite|AntiElite]] ([[User talk:AntiElite|talk]]) 11:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Transport belts

2016-10-24T11:57:42Z

AntiElite:

== To do: ==

Add
* belt direction, how to change it
* replacement,how to replace with faster belt type
:This is already part of the article in the "Placement" section
:[[User:AntiElite|AntiElite]] ([[User talk:AntiElite|talk]]) 11:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
== Deletion ==
I'm against the deletion of the Page. This Page was written by me and explains the mechanics of all the "transport belts" in detail. Each specific yellow, red and blue transport belt wiki page links to the "transport belts" page for more general Information about transport belt mechanics. The reason for Deletion is that it got merged into the page "Belt transport system". This Article is going to explain all of the core mechanics of belt's, underground Belt's and splitters at once. I can fill a long article with mechanics for each of them seperatly and merging everything into one page will end in a huge, messy article. If I want to know something about transport belt's in general, I don't want to read about splitters and underground belt first.

- AntiElite / AntiElitz — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AntiElite|AntiElite]] ([[User talk:AntiElite|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AntiElite|contribs]]) 02:47, 25 April 2016‎ (UTC)
:I would suggest using [[Belt transport system]] as a general overview of belts, underground belts, and splitters. And have each section link to a more detailed article of each type (ala ''Main page: [[Transport belts]]''). --[[User:Artorp|Artorp]] ([[User talk:Artorp|talk]]) 14:43, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
:: I would like to second [[User:Artorp|Artorp's]] suggestion. I feel like [[Belt transport system]] is much more useful as an overview with links to each piece broken down into more detail. I was looking for information the other day in that section, and having to dig through all the information for one specific thing was a little overwhelming. --[[User:Maelstrominabox|Maelstrominabox]] ([[User talk:Maelstrominabox|talk]]) 18:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

== Adding Balancer References ==
I wanted to add some more balancer designs for balancing multiple belts, in addition to the two single-belt designs. However, as Factorio is a game about designing your own factories, I am hesitant to do this, as it might result in a "this is the way that x is done" mentality. Please advise. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlanderwolf|Highlanderwolf]] ([[User talk:Highlanderwolf|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Highlanderwolf|contribs]]) 19:58, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
:We don't have standards for this yet, my advice would be not to add too many designs, and definitely don't add designs because you think they look cool or you're proud of it, only useful ones. I also wouldn't go about posting large designs, instead post small sections of a bigger design like the two already posted in the balancing section.
:On a different note, when posting a comment on a talk page like you just did, please make sure to put 4 tildes after your post (Example: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>), this will create a signature and timestamp so people know who asked the question or who posted the reply, comment or answer.
: [[User:TheWombatGuru|TheWombatGuru]] ([[User talk:TheWombatGuru|talk]]) - Factorio wiki administrator 18:23, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

:IMO lane balancers should be part of the splitters wiki page
:[[User:AntiElite|AntiElite]] ([[User talk:AntiElite|talk]]) 11:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Transport belts

2016-08-20T01:15:44Z

AntiElite: Undo revision 126556 by TheWombatGuru (talk) See Discusion Page for reason.

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{| style="float:right"
| [[File:Transport_belts_demo.gif|300px|top|thumb|Inserters insert onto the far side of a belt running past them.]]
| [[File:Transport_belts_demo2.gif|300px|top|thumb|Inserters insert onto the right hand side of a belt running away from them.]]
|}
'''Transport belts''' are used to transport items from one place to another. The advantages of transport belts lie in the fact that they don't use any power and are very easy to set up. There are three types of transport belts, each with their own properties.
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<div style="clear:right"></div>

==Types==

[[File:Transport_belts_speed.gif|300px|thumb|right|Animation showing the three types of belt and their speed (from top to bottom: regular belts, fast belts and express belts).]]
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! scope="col" | Type
! scope="col" | Max. throughput ([[Items]] per [[game-second]])
! scope="col" | Speed ([[Tile|Tiles]] per [[game-second]])
! scope="col" | Max. density ([[Items]] per [[Tile|tile]])
! scope="col" | Required [[Research|technologies]]
|-
| {{imagelink|basic-transport-belt|Transport Belt}} || 13.333 || 1.875 || 7.1111 || none
|-
| {{imagelink|fast-transport-belt|Fast Transport Belt}} || 26.667 || 3.750 || 7.1111 || [[Logistics 2 (research)]]
|-
| {{imagelink|express-transport-belt|Express Transport Belt}} || 40.000 || 5.625 || 7.1111 || [[Logistics 3 (research)]]
|}
 *experimental value: See '''[[Transport_belt_experiments|Transport belt experiments]]''' for more detailed information.
<div style="clear:right"></div>

==Placement==
{| style="float:right; padding-left:10px; padding-right:10px;">
| style="padding-right:1em" | [[File:Transport_belts_notplace.gif|300px|top]]
| style="padding-right:1em" | [[File:Transport_belts_doplace.gif|300px|top]]
| [[File:Transport_belts_replace.gif|300px|top]]
|}

* Do not place transport belts by moving the mouse
* Instead just move your character
* You can change the direction of a transport belt by overbuilding it
* You can change the direction of a transport belt by pressing "r" while mousing over it
* You can upgrade a transport belt by overbuilding it with another type
<div style="clear:right"></div>

==Belt Management==
===Merging and un-merging===
Belts have '''two lanes''' that can be used for transporting. This allows for either a double flow of one material, or with some careful setup, transporting two different materials on the same belt. Mixed belts can be beneficial for smelting ore, or producing items with a lot of ingredients such as the science pack 3.
Un-merging a mixed belt is fairly easy too, since an underground belt will block half of your a belt. So there is no reason to be afraid of mixed belts at all.

[[File:Transport_belts_merge.gif|300px|top]]   [[File:Transport_belts_unmerge.gif|300px|top]]

===Balancing the belts===
Sometimes you will find one side of a belt more empty than the other. In this care rebalancing the belt can be helpful.

The left design only rebalances equally if one side of the belt is empty while the right version always balances equally.

[[File:Transport_belts_balance1.gif|300px|top]]   [[File:Transport_belts_balance2.gif|300px|top]]

===Speed, Density and Throughput: About finding the bottlenecks===
Maximizing the throughput is important, since it will keep your belts efficient. Therefore we need to introduce some definitions:

; Speed
: How fast does a belt move.
; Density
: How tight are the items put on the belts.
; Throughput
: This is speed * density. It describes how many items pass by in a given time.

So there are two opportunities to enhance the throughput:

; More density
:Sometimes items have little spaces next to each other that aren't big enough for other items to fit in. In this case reordering the items can still increase the density. This can be done by temporary increasing the belt speed on a single tile or by merging 2 lanes with an inserter.

[[File:Transport_belts_density.gif|top|300px]]

; More speed
:In case your belts already are at maximum density you can still upgrade your speed with better belts. But first you have to find the bottleneck.
The bottleneck can be seen quite easy, if there is a part of a belt, where the items sometimes stop or don't move (or don't move fast) at maximum density and suddenly they come to a point, where this 'stop and go' releases itself and they run free and are not so tight on the belt. This is in most cases the exact place, where you need to optimize your belts.

==Moving other Entities: About highways, advanced defenses and moving boxes==
Moving fast can be essential to defend alien attacks in time. Running on a belt will increase or decrease the movement speed of the player accordingly to the belts speed. That is why building a belt towards your defenses can be beneficial.

However, the player is not the only unit that can be moved by transport belts. Also, biters and spitters can be moved. This can be abused to improve your defense. Firstly biters will have a harder time to reach your walls when placing express transport belt in front of them. Secondly spitters can be moved closer to your walls. That way more turrets can attack a single spitter at once.

Another useful usage are cars on transport belts. Cars have an inventory and can be filled by inserters. They can be used as moving boxes on belt. This has several advantages: Firstly the throughput of the belt-car-boxes is amazingly high, secondly the inserter stack size bonus does apply here and make inserters more effective.

[[File:Transport_belts_movement.gif|300px|top]]   [[File:Transport_belts_defence.jpg|300px|top]]   [[File:Transport_belts_carboxes.gif|400px|top]]

==See also==
* [[Transport network]]
** [[Splitters]]
** [[Underground belts]]
* [[Transport]]
* [[Crafting network]]
* [[Logistic network]]
* [http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3370 Intersection with 4 belts from every side]
* [[Transport belts/Transport other entities]]: even the car can be transported with belts.
* [[Transport belts/Why do belts use no energy?|Why do belts not require power?]]: Some reasons...
* [[Transport belts/Speedup Walking]]: Walk/run in belt direction add the speed of the belt to your own.
* [[Transport belts/Defense]]: Use the Express belt to slow down the enemies
* [[Transport belts/Physics]]
* [[Transport belts/Turns]]
* [[Transport belts/Blocking items]]
* [[Transport belts/Side insert]]
* [[Transport belts/Optimizing|Transport belt Optimising]]
* [[Transport belts/Side insert]]
* [http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6914&p=56388#p56388 Throughput and bottlenecks].
* [http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5316&start=20#p54495 Speed, Distance, Throughput, Compression]
* [http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7221 Tutorial for Belt Speed, Density and Throughput]
* [[Transport belts/Belt lane]] for more about usage of the two lanes of a belt.
* [[Transport belts/Optimizing|Transport belt Optimising]]
* [[Transport belts/Turns]] for details about turns.
* [[Transport belts/Optimizing| Transport belt Optimising]] about other ways to speed up this bottleneck.
* [http://www.factorioforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6801&p=54025#p54003 Testing fast belt corners] (interesting video)

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[[Category:Transport network]]
[[Category:Belt transport system]]

2015-12-24T03:17:11Z

AntiElite: Completely overhauled and rewritten for 0.12.20

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|health=50
|MaxThroughput=40.179
|input=Time, 0.5 + Fast Transport Belt + Iron Gear Wheel, 5 + Lubricant, 2
|raw=Time, 6.5 + Iron Plate, 21.5 + Lubricant, 2
|technologies=Logistics 3, 3
|producers=Assembling machine 2 + Assembling machine 3
|consumers=Manual + Assembling machine 2 + Assembling machine 3
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The [[Express transport belt]] is the most advanced variant of the [[Basic transport belt]]. Its available when [[Logistics 3]] has been [[Research|researched]]. Its behaviour is exactly the same as the [[Basic transport belt]] at triple speed. Making an express transport belt is costly and should be used mainly in places where high throughput is needed. Alternatively, it can be used as means to get around the base faster. 
See '''[[Transport_belts|Transport belts]]''' for more general information about transport belts. 

==Properties==


[[File:Express_transport_belt_fulldensity.gif|top|350px]] 
9 [[Fast inserter]] per side will fill an express belt to max. density


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! scope="col" | Type
! scope="col" | Max. throughput ([[Items]] per [[game-second]])
! scope="col" | Speed ([[Tile|Tiles]] per [[game-second]])
! scope="col" | Max. density ([[Items]] per [[Tile|tile]])
! scope="col" | Required [[Research|technologies]]
|-
| {{imagelink|express-transport-belt|Express transport belt}} || 40.179* || 5.625* || 7.143* || [[Logistics 3]]
|}
 *experimental value: See '''[[Transport_belt_experiments|Transport belt experiments]]''' for more detailed information.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

==Production Layouts==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! scope="col" | Design
! scope="col" | Input: ([[Items]] per [[game-second]])
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
|rowspan="3" | [[File:Express_Transport_belt_layout1.jpg|top|400px]]
|{{icon|iron plate|21.5}} {{icon|Lubricant|2}}
|-
! scope="col"|Output: ([[Items]] per [[game-second]])
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
|{{icon|express transport belt|1}}
|}

== Related items ==
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<tr>
<th style="background-color: #f2f2f2; border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;"> [[Transport_belts]]</th>
<th style="background-color: #f2f2f2; border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;"> [[Underground_belts]]</th>
<th style="background-color: #f2f2f2; border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;"> [[Splitters]]</th>
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<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|basic-transport-belt|Basic transport belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Basic-transport-belt-to-ground|Basic underground belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|basic-splitter|Basic splitter}}</td>
</tr> <tr>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Fast-transport-belt|Fast transport belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Fast-transport-belt-to-ground|Fast underground belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Fast-splitter|Fast splitter}}</td>
</tr> <tr>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Express-transport-belt|Express transport belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Express-transport-belt-to-ground|Express underground belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Express-splitter|Express splitter}}</td>
</tr>
</table>
== See also ==
* [[Transport network]]
** [[Splitters]]
** [[Underground belts]]
** [[Inserters]]
** [[Storages]]
* [[Crafting network]]

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2015-12-19T01:26:03Z

AntiElite: Complete overhoul

{{Languages}}
{{Machinery
|health=50
|speed=1.8
|input=Time, 0.5 + Iron Plate + Iron Gear Wheel
|output=Transport Belt, 2
|raw=Time, 1 + Iron Plate, 3
|producers=Manual + Assembling machine
|consumers=Manual + Assembling machine
}}
The '''Basic Transport Belt''' is the easiest way of automatic transportation of items. Its available from the beginning without [[research]]. See '''[[Transport_belts|Transport belts]]''' for more general information about transport belts. 
{{sublinks|Transport belts}}
==Properties==


[[File:Basic_transport_belt_fulldensity.gif|top|400px]] 
3 fast Inserters per side will fill a basic transport belt to max. density


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! scope="col" | Type
! scope="col" | Max. throughput ([[Items]] per [[game-second]])
! scope="col" | Speed ([[Tile|Tiles]] per [[game-second]])
! scope="col" | Max. density ([[Items]] per [[Tile|tile]])
! scope="col" | Required [[Research|technologies]]
|-
| {{imagelink|basic-transport-belt|Basic transport belt}} || 13.393* || 1.875* || 7.144* || none
|}
 *experimental value: See [[Transport_belt_experiments|Transport belt experiments]] for more detailed information.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

==Production Layouts==
Optimal ratio: 1 [[Iron gear wheel]] factory → 1 [[Basic transport belt]] factory.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! scope="col" | Design
! scope="col" | Input
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
|rowspan="3" | [[File:Transport_belt_layout1.jpg|top|400px]]
|
{{icon|iron plate|3/s}}
|-
! scope="col"|'''Output:'''
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
|
{{icon|transport belt|2/s}}
|}

== Related items ==
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<tr>
<th style="background-color: #f2f2f2; border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;"> [[Transport_belts]]</th>
<th style="background-color: #f2f2f2; border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;"> [[Underground_belts]]</th>
<th style="background-color: #f2f2f2; border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;"> [[Splitters]]</th>
</tr> <tr>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|basic-transport-belt|Basic transport belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Basic-transport-belt-to-ground|Basic underground belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|basic-splitter|Basic splitter}}</td>
</tr> <tr>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Fast-transport-belt|Fast transport belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Fast-transport-belt-to-ground|Fast underground belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Fast-splitter|Fast splitter}}</td>
</tr> <tr>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Express-transport-belt|Express transport belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Express-transport-belt-to-ground|Express underground belt}}</td>
<td style="border: 1px solid silver; border-collapse: collapse;">{{imagelink|Express-splitter|Express splitter}}</td>
</tr>
</table>
== See also ==
* [[Transport network]]
** [[Splitters]]
** [[Underground belts]]
** [[Inserters]]
** [[Storages]]
* [[Crafting network]]

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{{C|Items}}
{{C|Transport network}}
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File:Basic transport belt fulldensity.gif

2015-12-19T00:24:42Z

AntiElite:

2015-12-18T10:14:18Z

AntiElite: